[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/26/18 10:48 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2018-12-26 kl. 16:34, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>> On 12/26/18 9:05 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2018-12-26 kl. 14:47, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>>>> On 12/26/18 7:01 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>>>> Den 2018-12-26 kl. 10:06, skrev Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
>>>>>> In article <pvudfi$ouc$1 at dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have your VMS system accessed in a terminal window or a tab
>>>>>>> in your browser, you do not have to "go to a different machine" to
>>>>>>> access anything else from the web. Or write a Word document. Or
>>>>>>> check your mails on the corporate MS Exchange systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It starts when you download something in a web browser.  If I want 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> file on VMS, if I have no browser on VMS, I have to transfer it from
>>>>>> another machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Extremely easy to do. Usually just a single (S)FTP copy. It's not
>>>>> like you have to carry around a disk-pack or something...
>>>>>
>>>>> Constantly asking for special treatment (browsers, keyboards and such)
>>>>> just to use a VMS system, is not doing VMS any good. 
>>>>
>>>> Not providing the same level of service provided by all of VMS's
>>>> competitors is not doing VMS any good, either.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who expects the "same level of services" from a server OS and a
>>> client/desktop OS? Who expects "the same level of services" (what
>>> ever that is) from Windows and zOS?
>>
>> Windows is the "level of service" VMS has to compete with.  Whether
>> you like it or not, it is a fact.
>>
>>>
>>> Who are VMS's competitors? Now desktop versions of Windows and Linux.
>>
> 
> Sorry! Should have been "*Not* desktop versions of Windows and Linux."
> 
>> Primarily.
> 
> Again, sorry for my mistake. No, VMS will never compete with desktop 
> Windows and Linux. And it has never really done that.

Actually, I think it did.  When VMS first had DECWindows Linux
didn't exist, MS Windows was infantile at best and the competition
were people like Sun and SGI who didn't even attack the same market.

VMS will never displace MSWindows or Linux, but that is hardly
a reason to throw  in the towel.  It's a big market and VMS
could regain it's former healthy share.  But to do that it has
to shed the legacy moniker and move into at least the 20th
century.

bill