[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC
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Sat Dec 29 11:57:43 EST 2018
In article <q06o7g$eeb$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com> writes:
>On 27/12/2018 7:18 pm, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2018-12-27 kl. 10:25, skrev Hans Bachner:
>>> Jan-Erik Söderholm schrieb am 25.12.2018 um 10:38:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> As have been said many times, a web *browser* is wasted money on VMS.
>>>> No sane person uses VMS as their "office desktop" today. [...]
>>>
>>> I'm certainly not asking for a full desktop environment on OpenVMS,
>>> but a reasonable/usable browser should be rather high on the list.
>>> Given the fact that most support stuff (patches, kits, ...) is
>>> accessible through a browser (only, in many cases), there should be a
>>> way to directly download this stuff to a VMS box and not go through
>>> intermediate systems with different OSs.
>>>
>>
>> To fetch some pacthes or new OS kits a few times a year, I do not see
>> the big win here. And not the ROI from browser development/porting.
>>
>> For manual kit/patch fetches, your normal Windows desktop works
>> perfectly OK.
>>
>> Automated patch fetches will not be based on a web browser anyway.
>>
>> No, save those efforts for things that actually matters.
>>
>> Jan-Erik.
>>
>>> Well, VSI offers their kits/ECOs on an SFTP server which changes
>>> requirements a bit. But the old HP(E) interface into the patch website
>>> was quite good, where you could look at details of individual ECO kits
>>> and add them to your download list. I don't know how it looks today as
>>> partners (DSPP/AllianceONE) have been locked out for quite a while now.
>>>
>>>> And regarding a "GUI for VMS" in general, it is today a web server (on
>>>> VMS) and browsers (on some common office desktop platform).
>>>
>>> This is correct, and, while much management is still done on the
>>> command line and through scripting, more browser based tools at least
>>> for parts which are used only occasionally would be very helpful.
>>>
>>> Hans.
>>
>
>Give up Jan Erik. These people still want to use All-in-1 and
>VAXDocument :-(
I don't know about All-In-1 but I quite like Document.
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