[Info-vax] Vax Station 4000 VLC

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/29/18 11:57 AM, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <q06o7g$eeb$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS at hotmail.com> writes:
>> On 27/12/2018 7:18 pm, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2018-12-27 kl. 10:25, skrev Hans Bachner:
>>>> Jan-Erik Söderholm schrieb am 25.12.2018 um 10:38:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> As have been said many times, a web *browser* is wasted money on VMS.
>>>>> No sane person uses VMS as their "office desktop" today. [...]
>>>>
>>>> I'm certainly not asking for a full desktop environment on OpenVMS,
>>>> but a reasonable/usable browser should be rather high on the list.
>>>> Given the fact that most support stuff (patches, kits, ...) is
>>>> accessible through a browser (only, in many cases), there should be a
>>>> way to directly download this stuff to a VMS box and not go through
>>>> intermediate systems with different OSs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> To fetch some pacthes or new OS kits a few times a year, I do not see
>>> the big win here. And not the ROI from browser development/porting.
>>>
>>> For manual kit/patch fetches, your normal Windows desktop works
>>> perfectly OK.
>>>
>>> Automated patch fetches will not be based on a web browser anyway.
>>>
>>> No, save those efforts for things that actually matters.
>>>
>>> Jan-Erik.
>>>
>>>> Well, VSI offers their kits/ECOs on an SFTP server which changes
>>>> requirements a bit. But the old HP(E) interface into the patch website
>>>> was quite good, where you could look at details of individual ECO kits
>>>> and add them to your download list. I don't know how it looks today as
>>>> partners (DSPP/AllianceONE) have been locked out for quite a while now.
>>>>
>>>>> And regarding a "GUI for VMS" in general, it is today a web server (on
>>>>> VMS) and browsers (on some common office desktop platform).
>>>>
>>>> This is correct, and, while much management is still done on the
>>>> command line and through scripting, more browser based tools at least
>>>> for parts which are used only occasionally would be very helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Hans.
>>>
>>
>> Give up Jan Erik. These people still want to use All-in-1 and
>> VAXDocument :-(
> 
> I don't know about All-In-1 but I quite like Document.
> 

Not All-in-1 but Document was OK.

bill