[Info-vax] Transferring file to VMS emulated in SIMH
Henry Crun
mike at rechtman.com
Sat Dec 29 11:26:37 EST 2018
On 29/12/2018 16:46, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/29/18 12:58 AM, Steven Schweda wrote:
>>> What about using Kermit? [...]
>>
>> That might be fine, if you had it set up everywhere.
>
> Solving the original problem only requires it to be set up
> on two systems. The VAX and the one with the savesets he
> wants to move.
>
>>
>>> [...] Frank daCruz used to build VMS Kermit versions on one
>>> of my machines. [...]
>>
>> From: Frank da Cruz <XXX at columbia.edu>
>> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 18:55:00 -0500
>> [...]
>> [...] (I haven't seen VMS in over 5 years). [...]
>>
>>> [...] Might still be binaries available at Columbia.
>
> I looked and a binary of C-Kermit as well as the original
> Kermit-32 for VAX/VMS were still there.
>
>>
>> New home: http://www.kermitproject.org/index.html
>>
>> If you're looking for recent Kermit stuff for VMS, then
>> you might want to look at the stuff under:
>>
>> http://antinode.info/ftp/kermit/v9r0_304_dev22/
>
> I doubt the more redcent stuff would run on a VAX, but you never
> know.
>
>>
>> When I looked (March), the current official source kit
>> ("x.zip") had format problems on some VMS-specific files, and
>> a bunch of build problems (bugs). Supposedly, C-Kermit
>> 9.0.304 Dev.23 is in the oven, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> Thus a good reason to stay with an older version for the VAX.
>
>>
>> At that time, FDC was willing to point me to the solution
>> of a problem which I had when I changed my DSL modem+router
>> from one which used port 623 for Telnet to one which used
>> (plain-old) 23. "/RAW-SOCKET" is a miracle when Telnet
>> negotiation fails. I don't do much with Kermit, but I'd miss
>> it if it were gone.
>>
>
> I still use it for moving stuff around to older systems that
> have no networking, although I now have TCP/IP even on my old
> TRS-80's so it get much less use.
>
> bill
>
>
IIRC there was a short(ish) Macro program that could be copy-pasted to a VMS terminal, and which would when run download
the Kermit.EXE, all over a serial line. I seem to remember using it circa VMS V5.something.
Try http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckvins.html, look for Bootstrap perhaps.
But of course I might be wrong entirely...
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