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[Ron C]

On 1/6/2018 6:31 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 01/06/2018 06:22 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <fbd1v2Fug0vU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> The biggest problem in even considering a Tesla is that I live 
>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>> very cold climate which, since mid-December, has seen its 
>>>>>>>>> temperature
>>>>>>>>> go no lower than -25c. In such a climate, the already poor 
>>>>>>>>> range of an
>>>>>>>>> electric car is even worse and there are good reasons to 
>>>>>>>>> believe that
>>>>>>>>> it wouldn't even start.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the batteries are heated in cold weather and the cars start just 
>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are they heated through the use of a block heater or is there some
>>>>>>> other solution I'm not aware of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can preheat
>>>>>> the cabin via a smartphone app.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that heating shortens your range.  Or did you think it was
>>>>> somehow free?
>>>>
>>>> it's effectively free. the impact is a few miles less range, out of
>>>> 200-300 miles total. most trips are well under that, so it's not even
>>>> remotely a concern.
>>>
>>> Say what?
>>>
>>> Honda FitEV - 82 miles
>>> KIA SoulEV - 93 miles
>>> Mercedes Benz B-Class Electric Drive - 124 miles
>>> Mitsubishi I-MiEV - 106 miles
>>> Nissan Leaf - 75 miles
>>> Smart electric Drive - 90 miles
>>> Volkswagen e-Up - 99 miles
>>> Chevy Spark EV - 82 miles
>>> BMW i3 - 114 miles
>>
>> <http://fortune.com/2017/01/22/tesla-long-range-electric-car/>
>>    Without much fanfare, Tesla has added a new battery option to its
>>    menu. The Model S 100D, currently listed at a base price of $92,500,
>>    offers an EPA-rated range of 335 miles on a full charge, making it,
>>    according to Autoblog, the longest-range consumer electric vehicle in
>>    the world
>>
>> <https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/by-the-numbers-tesla-model-3-vs-chev
>> rolet-bolt-ev/>
>>    The Tesla Model 3's base battery confers a 220-mile range, which is a
>>    bit less than the Bolt EV's 238-mile range. The base Model 3 packs
>>    better performance, though, hitting 60 mph in 5.6 seconds (versus
>>    6.5-ish) and reaching a top speed of 130 mph (versus a paltry 93 mph).
>>
>>    Add the bigger battery, and the Tesla's numbers get better. Range
>>    bumps up to 310 miles, the 0 to 60 time drops to 5.1 seconds and the
>>    top speed extends to 140 mph.
>>
>>> Not everybody can afford a Tesla.
>>
>> the tesla model 3 starts at $35k, comparable to many other vehicles.
>>
>> there are also assorted credits for buying an electric vehicle, further
>> reducing the actual price.
>>
>>> Before I retired my daily commute was between 60 and 70 miles.
>>
>> then it's not a problem at all.
>>
>>> Very
>>> close for some of these cars without using some of that electricity
>>> for heat.  One detour because of an accident on the highway and I am
>>> screwed.
>>
>> not even remotely close.
>>
>>> And what do you think it will cost to have it flatbeded to
>>> my house?  Not to mention the wasted time, inconvenience and danger of
>>> being stranded on the side of the road.  especially in -20 temps.
>>
>> about the same as flatbedding any other car.
>>
>> it's a completely fabricated scenario.
>>
>>> Electric cars are about as ready for reality as autonomous cars.
>>
>> autonomous vehicles are already on the road.
>>
> 
> A scary thought to many of us.
> 
> bill
> 
As noted by the [security bug] thread from which we've deviated.
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Later...
Ron C
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