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[Bill Gunshannon]

On 01/06/2018 06:22 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <fbd1v2Fug0vU1 at mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
> <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> The biggest problem in even considering a Tesla is that I live in a
>>>>>>>> very cold climate which, since mid-December, has seen its temperature
>>>>>>>> go no lower than -25c. In such a climate, the already poor range of an
>>>>>>>> electric car is even worse and there are good reasons to believe that
>>>>>>>> it wouldn't even start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the batteries are heated in cold weather and the cars start just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are they heated through the use of a block heater or is there some
>>>>>> other solution I'm not aware of?
>>>>>
>>>>> the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can preheat
>>>>> the cabin via a smartphone app.
>>>>
>>>> And that heating shortens your range.  Or did you think it was
>>>> somehow free?
>>>
>>> it's effectively free. the impact is a few miles less range, out of
>>> 200-300 miles total. most trips are well under that, so it's not even
>>> remotely a concern.
>>
>> Say what?
>>
>> Honda FitEV - 82 miles
>> KIA SoulEV - 93 miles
>> Mercedes Benz B-Class Electric Drive - 124 miles
>> Mitsubishi I-MiEV - 106 miles
>> Nissan Leaf - 75 miles
>> Smart electric Drive - 90 miles
>> Volkswagen e-Up - 99 miles
>> Chevy Spark EV - 82 miles
>> BMW i3 - 114 miles
> 
> <http://fortune.com/2017/01/22/tesla-long-range-electric-car/>
>    Without much fanfare, Tesla has added a new battery option to its
>    menu. The Model S 100D, currently listed at a base price of $92,500,
>    offers an EPA-rated range of 335 miles on a full charge, making it,
>    according to Autoblog, the longest-range consumer electric vehicle in
>    the world
> 
> <https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/by-the-numbers-tesla-model-3-vs-chev
> rolet-bolt-ev/>
>    The Tesla Model 3's base battery confers a 220-mile range, which is a
>    bit less than the Bolt EV's 238-mile range. The base Model 3 packs
>    better performance, though, hitting 60 mph in 5.6 seconds (versus
>    6.5-ish) and reaching a top speed of 130 mph (versus a paltry 93 mph).
> 
>    Add the bigger battery, and the Tesla's numbers get better. Range
>    bumps up to 310 miles, the 0 to 60 time drops to 5.1 seconds and the
>    top speed extends to 140 mph.
> 
>> Not everybody can afford a Tesla.
> 
> the tesla model 3 starts at $35k, comparable to many other vehicles.
> 
> there are also assorted credits for buying an electric vehicle, further
> reducing the actual price.
> 
>> Before I retired my daily commute was between 60 and 70 miles.
> 
> then it's not a problem at all.
> 
>> Very
>> close for some of these cars without using some of that electricity
>> for heat.  One detour because of an accident on the highway and I am
>> screwed.
> 
> not even remotely close.
> 
>> And what do you think it will cost to have it flatbeded to
>> my house?  Not to mention the wasted time, inconvenience and danger of
>> being stranded on the side of the road.  especially in -20 temps.
> 
> about the same as flatbedding any other car.
> 
> it's a completely fabricated scenario.
> 
>> Electric cars are about as ready for reality as autonomous cars.
> 
> autonomous vehicles are already on the road.
> 

A scary thought to many of us.

bill