[Info-vax] Intel junk...Kernel-memory-leaking Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 01/08/2018 02:59 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Den 2018-01-08 kl. 20:22, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>> On 01/08/2018 11:48 AM, DaveFroble wrote:
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>> Doomsdrzej, AKA "Slimer", wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>> the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can 
>>>>>>>> preheat
>>>>>>>> the cabin via a smartphone app.
>>>>>>> _How_ are they heated? 
>>>>>> via a heater module on the batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Which is fine, if you're plugged-in.  Otherwise, you're sucking
>>>> battery power.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Pre-heating the cabin essentially means that you've turned on the 
>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>> remotely. However, this is only possible if the car starts which, of
>>>>>>> course, often requires the batteries to be heated.
>>>>>> for a gas powered vehicle, the engine must be running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not true for an electric vehicle.
>>>>> Very interesting to know, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Well, duh.  The heater's not working off from engine coolant...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Think about this.  That waste heat wasn't free.  It's unused energy. 
>>> That means you've had to put much more potential into the gasoline 
>>> engine to get what you need.  With electric, less energy is required. 
>>> Of course, the heat is nice when it's cold.  Still, from an energy 
>>> perspective, the gasoline engine is rather wasteful.
>>>
>>
>> Try tracing the power from the battery in the car all the way back
>> to it's origination.  Take all the "efficiencies" into consideration.
>> Now tell me how wasteful the gasoline engine really is.
>>
>> bill
>>
> 
> The problem is not efficient of the engine is as such. The problem is
> that it in most cases is burning fosile fules and releasing CO2 that
> was "in the loop" millions of years ago.

How do you think they generated the electricity to charge your
car?  With inefficiencies on the generating end as well as the
using end.


> 
> If you run the gasoline engine on bio-fuels produced from plants
> growing *today*, there is no issue with the C02 emissions.

Funny, Europe seems to have changed their tune on that one lately.

bill