[Info-vax] Intel junk...Kernel-memory-leaking Intel processor design flaw forces Linux, Windows redesign

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Den 2018-01-08 kl. 22:02, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
> On 01/08/2018 02:59 PM, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Den 2018-01-08 kl. 20:22, skrev Bill Gunshannon:
>>> On 01/08/2018 11:48 AM, DaveFroble wrote:
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>> Doomsdrzej, AKA "Slimer", wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>> the batteries are heated and shortly before leaving, you can preheat
>>>>>>>>> the cabin via a smartphone app.
>>>>>>>> _How_ are they heated? 
>>>>>>> via a heater module on the batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is fine, if you're plugged-in.  Otherwise, you're sucking
>>>>> battery power.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pre-heating the cabin essentially means that you've turned on the car
>>>>>>>> remotely. However, this is only possible if the car starts which, of
>>>>>>>> course, often requires the batteries to be heated.
>>>>>>> for a gas powered vehicle, the engine must be running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not true for an electric vehicle.
>>>>>> Very interesting to know, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, duh.  The heater's not working off from engine coolant...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Think about this.  That waste heat wasn't free.  It's unused energy. 
>>>> That means you've had to put much more potential into the gasoline 
>>>> engine to get what you need.  With electric, less energy is required. 
>>>> Of course, the heat is nice when it's cold.  Still, from an energy 
>>>> perspective, the gasoline engine is rather wasteful.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Try tracing the power from the battery in the car all the way back
>>> to it's origination.  Take all the "efficiencies" into consideration.
>>> Now tell me how wasteful the gasoline engine really is.
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
>>
>> The problem is not efficient of the engine is as such. The problem is
>> that it in most cases is burning fosile fules and releasing CO2 that
>> was "in the loop" millions of years ago.
> 
> How do you think they generated the electricity to charge your
> car?

Water power stations, to the largest part.

> With inefficiencies on the generating end as well as the
> using end.

Water power stations has the lowest losses of all types.