[Info-vax] OpenVMS servers and clusters as a cloud service

[DaveFroble]

Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2018-01-10 19:13:09 +0000, DaveFroble said:
> 
>> Agreed, but, the users need to have some responsibility.
> 
> Yes.  We do.  We have to take responsibility.   But we often don't.  We 
> far too often blame the users, or the developers.   That usually means 
> we don't have to think any more about the whole problem.  No matter how 
> bad it gets, how often it blows up, or what the results might be.   Or 
> what we might change or implement or enhance or re-think to try to avoid 
> the whole mess.  Sure, a few folks mess up.  But if everybody's not 
> doing something desirable?   We have a problem.  Either with the value 
> and own expectations, or with the implementations and documentation and 
> APIs and defaults.   I've really found areas with the "blame the user" 
> response — some vendors have raised that to an art form, along with the 
> "it's a virus" and "did you try rebooting it?" analogs — to be fruitful 
> areas for investigations and potential changes and enhancements.   Of 
> asking why the problems arise, and on whether the blame isn't really 
> best on the end-users but better fits on the tool or platform developers 
> and designers.  Maybe even hosting OpenVMS on Amazon or Azure or 
> Scaleway makes sense for some folks and some deployments after all, and 
> how do we best get there?

I'm thinking I made a poor choice of words.  "User".  Could mean more than one 
thing.  What would be more accurate would be "the application designer(s) need 
to have some responsibility".  The actual users of the application should not 
have to figure out things.  Good documentation, good training, and such is again 
the job of the application designers and installers and trainers.  The 
application design should be robust enough that users just cannot get into trouble.

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