[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 01/23/2018 06:55 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2018-01-24 00:36, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 01/23/2018 06:28 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2018-01-24 00:01, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> On 01/23/2018 05:53 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-01-23 14:36, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>> Like so many things that have gone out of business I wold have liked
>>>>>> to see it just Open Sourced.  But I doubt that will happen.  Much 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> likely it will fade into oblivion like all the PDP software.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...still working on that... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>    Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but will I live long enough to see it?  More importantly, will
>>>> there still be any PDP-11's (real ones) left by the time that comes
>>>> about.  :-)
>>>
>>> Obviously it is impossible to say when we'll have any results. It 
>>> depends on several things. But I can assure you that there is at 
>>> least some effort being spent on making progress.
>>
>> I am sure there is.  And has been for quite some time now. But, as
>> I said, I am not holding my breath waiting.  I don't look good in blue.
> 
> No one looks good in blue. :-)
> So yeah, don't hold your breath. But I think there is at least a glimmer 
> of hope. I wish I could report more, but there is nothing really to 
> report right now. I'll give more information when there is something 
> concrete to report.
> 
>>> And I can assure you that I have a bunch of physical machines that 
>>> will stay around for a long time yet. But most places I know who 
>>> still run PDP-11s in production have moved over to emulated machines.
>>
>> Of course they are.  If production sites were still using real PDP's
>> we wouldn't have them to play with.  :-)
> 
> Well. I think it's still (sortof) good news that some of the places are 
> staying with the PDP-11s. It's just that emulated machines are so much 
> faster and cheaper today. And the one thing that often is the largest 
> issue on the old machines are the disks... Most people are happy to get 
> away from those. (Especially if they still run on RD53s...)
> 

Well, I still have a few RD's.  And I have other MFM disks that I can
use with my Andromeda DC-11's.  But I prefer SCSI.

Gee, I wonder if there are any places still running COBOL or Fortran
on a PDP-11 that need a remote programmer?  :-)

bill