[Info-vax] Programming languages on VMS

[DaveFroble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Den 2018-01-24 kl. 00:36, skrev already5chosen at yahoo.com:
>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 1:22:57 AM UTC+2, Jan-Erik Soderholm
>> wrote:
>>> Den 2018-01-23 kl. 23:58, skrev already5chosen at yahoo.com:
>>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 6:06:34 PM UTC+2, Stephen Hoffman 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody's mentioned an IDE here yet, and that's basically a 
>>>>> requirement for most modern developers.   That means more than a 
>>>>> little work in LSEDIT or other VSI tools, and more than a little 
>>>>> integration support that the third-party IDE providers can build
>>>>> on. Build-related tools, too.  Cmake has been ported, but is not
>>>>> yet available.  Work on GNV and its tools.  Etc.  Existing ISVs
>>>>> accept where OpenVMS and its tools are, but potential new ISVs are
>>>>> going to be a little more particular about the available tools and
>>>>> frameworks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would imagine that new ISVs would not want native VMS development 
>>>> tools at all. They would be more comfortable with Windows-hosted or 
>>>> Linux-hosted cross-development.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, also thought about that when I saw Hoffs note. I do not see any 
>>> major news in the native tools, besides of in the build/compile/link 
>>> contexts. Editing sources belongs to the desktop.
>>
>> That's not what I meant. I had in mind all code-generation tools also
>> running off-VMS, ether on desktop, or, for large projects, on non-VMS
>> build server. Only minimal debugger agent runs natively.
>>
> 
> Ah, OK... :-) The jury is still out on that one, I guess... :-)
> 

Depends on who is on the jury ...

If that's all someone wants, I don't see a need for VMS in such an environment. 
  What could it possibly have that isn't already on some "gee wizz" "can do 
everything" type of system?

I'm betting I'm not the only geezer who isn't quite done with the "traditional" 
VMS development environment.


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