[Info-vax] Alpha to Integrity migration, license options

[Carl Friedberg]

Speaking as an interested third party, my client bought 3 years of support
for
Integrity 2800 i4 class server. With that 3 year contract, the upgrade from
the
Alpha ES45 (still current) was made a part, with no charge.

YMMV, but this is a deal that's too good to refuse IMHO

I have found Alexander Graham Bell's 100+ year old invention to be more
helpful in the kinds of transactions...

Carl

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Rich Jordan via Info-vax <
info-vax at rbnsn.com> wrote:

> On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 12:52:31 PM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> > On 2018-04-30 15:21:08 +0000, Rich Jordan said:
> >
> > > I've heard from one vendor that HP may have stopped offering any form
> > > of migration or trade in for Alpha licenses to Integrity at some
> point,
> > > as far as they know.
> > > I've exhausted my efforts to get a definite answer either way out of
> > > HP; nobody calls back except to direct me to talk to someone else who
> > > then never calls back or responds.  Even VMS support said they'd get
> me
> > > in touch with the right people, and then stopped responding.
> >
> > HP isn't involved with OpenVMS.   HPE is.
> >
> > The folks at HPE are exiting the OpenVMS business.
> >
> > HPE would be subsidizing an upgrade from a now-supported platform to a
> > software platform that the HPE folks acquire from VSI and resell.
> >
> > > I have a query in to VSI since early last week also waiting on a
> response.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if there is any kind of trade-in or migration option
> > > for VMS licenses when moving from OpenVMS Alpha to Integrity currently
> > > available?
> >
> > Absent specific reasons to engage HPE, you're already going to be
> > dealing at least indirectly with VSI for any current Itanium hardware
> > and might as well go direct.
> >
> > I'm skeptical around an upgrade an existing OpenVMS Alpha system to
> > OpenVMS I64 right now, given the schedule for OpenVMS on x86-64, and
> > given the existing VSI support for OpenVMS Alpha, and given the
> > migration path.
> >
> > If you're on any recent OpenVMS I64 release or any supported OpenVMS
> > Alpha release, you're already dealing with VSI end-to-end for support,
> > too.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
>
> Hoff
>      sorry, too many years of HP;  I was trying to deal with HPE but
> autopiloted HP on the post.  When we started trying to get licensing info
> at the beginning of April the news about VMS support moving to VSI was not
> yet known (at least to us; the folks on the HPE side might have known);
> maybe that is why I could not get anyone to return a call or email.
>
>      The site is concerned about their aging storage hardware (MSA1000,
> SAN switches, etc).  The Alphas are rock solid but every time they get a
> powerfail or the A/C lets the room get too hot, they lose a piece of
> storage equipment and its getting pricey to replace.  They looked at Alpha
> emulation but that has been priced into large business/enterprise territory
> these days (wonder if the transfer licensing for that is changing too...).
> Integrity would put them on decade+ newer hardware with better/newer shared
> storage options, but we need to know if the only license option is retail
> or if any kind of trade-up or migration is still offered to determine costs
> involved.
>
>      Our last Alpha-Integrity migrations were 6+ years ago so we need to
> know the current options, which HPE was unwilling or unable to provide.
> Unable now, I suppose, if licensing has moved to VSI along with support.
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
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