[Info-vax] Key LLVM developer resigns

DaveFroble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Mon May 7 13:11:57 EDT 2018


Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2018-05-05, Craig A. Berry <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/18 8:44 AM, MG wrote:
>>> Why would they?  LLVM has demonstrated that they don't
>>> put development of LLVM first 
>> Software doesn't develop itself; it needs people. As far as I can see,
>> the LLVM project have taken reasonable steps to make the project a nice
>> place to work for the people involved, including some efforts to
>> actively recruit new people from underrepresented groups. That's
>> actually a very good plan to "put development of LLVM first" long-term.
>>
>> The code of conduct to which the quitter objects is here:
>>
>> <https://releases.llvm.org/5.0.0/docs/CodeOfConduct.html>
>>
> 
> If that's all there was to it, I wouldn't be nervous because what
> is on that page (as at 7-Mar-2018) is a reasonably written set of
> guidelines if they are administered by grown up people who use
> normal judgements about what is right and what is wrong.
> 
> Unfortunately, reading around, there appears to be some serious
> concern that this might just be the entry point for some rather
> unexpected behaviour and there are indeed a good number of examples
> if you go looking.
> 
> For example, here is the GitHub Code of Conduct:
> 
> https://blog.github.com/2015-07-20-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct/
> 
> and the CoC mentioned is available here:
> 
> http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/
> 
> which includes a rather charming section that begins with:
> 
> |Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people's safety
> |over privileged people's comfort.
> 
> After Googling the terms in that section to try and understand what
> on earth it is saying, what that appears to be saying is that if you
> are part of the mainstream culture then you don't have any rights to
> complain about attacks against what you say, even when the attacks
> are unjustified.
> 
> There is also a movement to remove Master/Slave from the technical
> terminology because it is considered to be racist/oppressive/etc:
> 
> https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/2275877
> https://github.com/rust-lang-deprecated/rust-buildbot/issues/2
> 
> Oh, and it appears you can't use "hugs" as an innocent expression of
> sympathy any more because it has now become oppressive to do so:
> 
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/
> 
> Simon.
> 

It's the mob mentality.  Feeds on a frenzy of zealous righteousness.

A while back the owner of the Perfect Disk defragmentor, some religious zealot 
who was against some drug, found out a customer who mfgs the drug was using the 
product.  He did something stupid, maybe withdrew the license, or something.

At the time there was indignation from many in the VMS community, and something 
was resolved.  As for me, I'd never use that vendor again, no matter how good 
his software is.

Well, in today's mob, those protesting the action would most likely get shouted 
down.  I don't know where all this is going, but I'm thinking it's nowhere good.

Not that I'm against freedom, equal treatment, and such.  But mobs never do the 
right thing.

Ain't no way to run a business ....



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