[Info-vax] Key LLVM developer resigns

[Robert A. Brooks]

On 5/7/2018 1:11 PM, DaveFroble wrote:
> Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2018-05-05, Craig A. Berry <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/18 8:44 AM, MG wrote:
>>>> Why would they?  LLVM has demonstrated that they don't put
>>>> development of LLVM first
>>> Software doesn't develop itself; it needs people. As far as I can
>>> see, the LLVM project have taken reasonable steps to make the
>>> project a nice place to work for the people involved, including
>>> some efforts to actively recruit new people from underrepresented
>>> groups. That's actually a very good plan to "put development of
>>> LLVM first" long-term.
>>> 
>>> The code of conduct to which the quitter objects is here:
>>> 
>>> <https://releases.llvm.org/5.0.0/docs/CodeOfConduct.html>
>>> 
>> 
>> If that's all there was to it, I wouldn't be nervous because what 
>> is on that page (as at 7-Mar-2018) is a reasonably written set of 
>> guidelines if they are administered by grown up people who use 
>> normal judgements about what is right and what is wrong.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, reading around, there appears to be some serious 
>> concern that this might just be the entry point for some rather 
>> unexpected behaviour and there are indeed a good number of
>> examples if you go looking.
>> 
>> For example, here is the GitHub Code of Conduct:
>> 
>> https://blog.github.com/2015-07-20-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct/
>>
>>
>> 
and the CoC mentioned is available here:
>> 
>> http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/
>> 
>> which includes a rather charming section that begins with:
>> 
>> |Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people's
>> safety |over privileged people's comfort.
>> 
>> After Googling the terms in that section to try and understand
>> what on earth it is saying, what that appears to be saying is that
>> if you are part of the mainstream culture then you don't have any
>> rights to complain about attacks against what you say, even when
>> the attacks are unjustified.
>> 
>> There is also a movement to remove Master/Slave from the technical 
>> terminology because it is considered to be racist/oppressive/etc:
>> 
>> https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/2275877 
>> https://github.com/rust-lang-deprecated/rust-buildbot/issues/2
>> 
>> Oh, and it appears you can't use "hugs" as an innocent expression
>> of sympathy any more because it has now become oppressive to do
>> so:
>> 
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/
>>
>>
>> 
Simon.
>> 
> 
> It's the mob mentality.  Feeds on a frenzy of zealous righteousness.
> 
> A while back the owner of the Perfect Disk defragmentor, some
> religious zealot who was against some drug, found out a customer who
> mfgs the drug was using the product.  He did something stupid, maybe
> withdrew the license, or something.
 
That was Craig Jensen of Executive Software (Diskeeper) who professes to be a Scientologist.

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                      -- Rob