[Info-vax] Key LLVM developer resigns

[Anonymous]

Robert A. Brooks <FIRST.LAST at vmssoftware.com> wrote:
> On 5/7/2018 1:11 PM, DaveFroble wrote:
>> Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-05, Craig A. Berry <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/18 8:44 AM, MG wrote:
>>>>> Why would they?  LLVM has demonstrated that they don't put
>>>>> development of LLVM first
>>>> Software doesn't develop itself; it needs people. As far as I can
>>>> see, the LLVM project have taken reasonable steps to make the
>>>> project a nice place to work for the people involved, including
>>>> some efforts to actively recruit new people from underrepresented
>>>> groups. That's actually a very good plan to "put development of
>>>> LLVM first" long-term.
>>>> 
>>>> The code of conduct to which the quitter objects is here:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://releases.llvm.org/5.0.0/docs/CodeOfConduct.html>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> If that's all there was to it, I wouldn't be nervous because what 
>>> is on that page (as at 7-Mar-2018) is a reasonably written set of 
>>> guidelines if they are administered by grown up people who use 
>>> normal judgements about what is right and what is wrong.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, reading around, there appears to be some serious 
>>> concern that this might just be the entry point for some rather 
>>> unexpected behaviour and there are indeed a good number of
>>> examples if you go looking.
>>> 
>>> For example, here is the GitHub Code of Conduct:
>>> 
>>> https://blog.github.com/2015-07-20-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> and the CoC mentioned is available here:
>>> 
>>> http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/
>>> 
>>> which includes a rather charming section that begins with:
>>> 
>>> |Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people's
>>> safety |over privileged people's comfort.
>>> 
>>> After Googling the terms in that section to try and understand
>>> what on earth it is saying, what that appears to be saying is that
>>> if you are part of the mainstream culture then you don't have any
>>> rights to complain about attacks against what you say, even when
>>> the attacks are unjustified.
>>> 
>>> There is also a movement to remove Master/Slave from the technical 
>>> terminology because it is considered to be racist/oppressive/etc:
>>> 
>>> https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/2275877 
>>> https://github.com/rust-lang-deprecated/rust-buildbot/issues/2
>>> 
>>> Oh, and it appears you can't use "hugs" as an innocent expression
>>> of sympathy any more because it has now become oppressive to do
>>> so:
>>> 
>>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> Simon.
>>> 
>> 
>> It's the mob mentality.  Feeds on a frenzy of zealous righteousness.
>> 
>> A while back the owner of the Perfect Disk defragmentor, some
>> religious zealot who was against some drug, found out a customer who
>> mfgs the drug was using the product.  He did something stupid, maybe
>> withdrew the license, or something.
>  
> That was Craig Jensen of Executive Software (Diskeeper) who professes to
> be a Scientologist.
> 

That was definately not the purveyor of PerfectDisk!
I was working for Raxco Software at the time, and that wasn’t us.

Jim
Hibbits