[Info-vax] Key LLVM developer resigns

DaveFroble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Mon May 7 20:40:00 EDT 2018


Anonymous wrote:
> Robert A. Brooks <FIRST.LAST at vmssoftware.com> wrote:
>> On 5/7/2018 1:11 PM, DaveFroble wrote:
>>> Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-05, Craig A. Berry <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/18 8:44 AM, MG wrote:
>>>>>> Why would they?  LLVM has demonstrated that they don't put
>>>>>> development of LLVM first
>>>>> Software doesn't develop itself; it needs people. As far as I can
>>>>> see, the LLVM project have taken reasonable steps to make the
>>>>> project a nice place to work for the people involved, including
>>>>> some efforts to actively recruit new people from underrepresented
>>>>> groups. That's actually a very good plan to "put development of
>>>>> LLVM first" long-term.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code of conduct to which the quitter objects is here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://releases.llvm.org/5.0.0/docs/CodeOfConduct.html>
>>>>>
>>>> If that's all there was to it, I wouldn't be nervous because what 
>>>> is on that page (as at 7-Mar-2018) is a reasonably written set of 
>>>> guidelines if they are administered by grown up people who use 
>>>> normal judgements about what is right and what is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, reading around, there appears to be some serious 
>>>> concern that this might just be the entry point for some rather 
>>>> unexpected behaviour and there are indeed a good number of
>>>> examples if you go looking.
>>>>
>>>> For example, here is the GitHub Code of Conduct:
>>>>
>>>> https://blog.github.com/2015-07-20-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> and the CoC mentioned is available here:
>>>> http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/
>>>>
>>>> which includes a rather charming section that begins with:
>>>>
>>>> |Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people's
>>>> safety |over privileged people's comfort.
>>>>
>>>> After Googling the terms in that section to try and understand
>>>> what on earth it is saying, what that appears to be saying is that
>>>> if you are part of the mainstream culture then you don't have any
>>>> rights to complain about attacks against what you say, even when
>>>> the attacks are unjustified.
>>>>
>>>> There is also a movement to remove Master/Slave from the technical 
>>>> terminology because it is considered to be racist/oppressive/etc:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/2275877 
>>>> https://github.com/rust-lang-deprecated/rust-buildbot/issues/2
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and it appears you can't use "hugs" as an innocent expression
>>>> of sympathy any more because it has now become oppressive to do
>>>> so:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Simon.
>>> It's the mob mentality.  Feeds on a frenzy of zealous righteousness.
>>>
>>> A while back the owner of the Perfect Disk defragmentor, some
>>> religious zealot who was against some drug, found out a customer who
>>> mfgs the drug was using the product.  He did something stupid, maybe
>>> withdrew the license, or something.
>>  
>> That was Craig Jensen of Executive Software (Diskeeper) who professes to
>> be a Scientologist.
>>
> 
> That was definately not the purveyor of PerfectDisk!
> I was working for Raxco Software at the time, and that wasn’t us.
> 
> Jim
> Hibbits 

You are right, and my memory is showing it's age.  As Robert mentions correctly, 
it was diskkeeper.

We have used Perfect Disk, so I'm wondering how I got them mixed up.

Guessing good old Craig ended up providing you with more customers?

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