[Info-vax] Key LLVM developer resigns

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 5/7/2018 5:46 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2018-05-05, Craig A. Berry <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/18 8:44 AM, MG wrote:
>>> Why would they?  LLVM has demonstrated that they don't
>>> put development of LLVM first
>>
>> Software doesn't develop itself; it needs people. As far as I can see,
>> the LLVM project have taken reasonable steps to make the project a nice
>> place to work for the people involved, including some efforts to
>> actively recruit new people from underrepresented groups. That's
>> actually a very good plan to "put development of LLVM first" long-term.
>>
>> The code of conduct to which the quitter objects is here:
>>
>> <https://releases.llvm.org/5.0.0/docs/CodeOfConduct.html>
> 
> If that's all there was to it, I wouldn't be nervous because what
> is on that page (as at 7-Mar-2018) is a reasonably written set of
> guidelines if they are administered by grown up people who use
> normal judgements about what is right and what is wrong.
> 
> Unfortunately, reading around, there appears to be some serious
> concern that this might just be the entry point for some rather
> unexpected behaviour and there are indeed a good number of examples
> if you go looking.
> 
> For example, here is the GitHub Code of Conduct:
> 
> https://blog.github.com/2015-07-20-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct/
> 
> and the CoC mentioned is available here:
> 
> http://todogroup.org/opencodeofconduct/
> 
> which includes a rather charming section that begins with:
> 
> |Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people's safety
> |over privileged people's comfort.
> 
> After Googling the terms in that section to try and understand what
> on earth it is saying, what that appears to be saying is that if you
> are part of the mainstream culture then you don't have any rights to
> complain about attacks against what you say, even when the attacks
> are unjustified.

Yes. But that clause is not in LLVM CoC.

And speculation about how the CoC could be changed later is
very speculative.

Arne