[Info-vax] Free Pascal for VMS ?

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Sat May 12 19:20:10 EDT 2018


On 5/12/2018 4:30 PM, seasoned_geek wrote:
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 11:57:11 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>> On 2018-05-11 00:39:01 +0000, seasoned_geek said:
>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 10:54:39 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>> We'll still be dealing with C and Microsoft Windows and Unix/Linux in
>>>> twenty years.
>>>
>>> We will be dealing with C for a very long time. Windows won't make it
>>> another 10 years, let alone 20. Just like Apple doesn't make its own
>>> OS, putting a GUI desktop on top of BSD, Windows will be a GUI front
>>> end on top of Cannonical's Ubuntu.
>>> If Linux is still around, it won't be anything you recognize. The Linux
>>> philosophy of complete anarchy with everyone rolling their own
>>> transport layer security and opening whatever ports they want means
>>> security is physically impossible to achieve. It will be forced to have
>>> a TCP/IP software appliance and disable the existing network libraries
>>> after a few more rashes of high profile security breaches.
>>
>> You really don't like the current market and the current reality, do
>> you?   Okay, Windows will be around for the foreseeable future as a
>> billion systems don't go away very quickly
> 
> Windows is going away just like MAC OS went away. Apple just puts a desktop on BSD.

That is not a particular accurate description.

macOS (MacOS X) consist of a mix of NextStep/Mach and BSD pieces with
a large number of Apple specific stuff (way beyond "desktop").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_macOS#/media/File:Diagram_of_Mac_OS_X_architecture.svg

> KDE, Gnome, Xfce, etc. just put a desktop on top of Linux. Before very long Windows will just be a desktop running on Ubuntu.

Putting a Windows environment on top of a Linux Kernel will not be an 
Ubuntu.

And it is a lot more than "just". Driver incompatibilities, API 
incompatibilities etc. would make it a business disaster.

> They've been laying the groundwork for the move since 2014.
> 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-open-source-more-of-net-and-bring-it-to-linux-mac-os-x/

The fact that MS want to make .NET a viable platform on non-Windows
platform does not imply that they want to take the kernel from a
specific one of those platforms.

Arne




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