[Info-vax] Free Pascal for VMS ?

[Dave Froble]

On 5/21/2018 9:10 AM, seasoned_geek wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:44:09 PM UTC-5, dgordo... at gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 12:28:27 PM UTC-4, seasoned_geek wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 11:16:02 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> But we aren't gointo have OpenVMS on x86-64. We are going to have a *nix that sucks and ___NOBODY___ has officially answered the question as to what the target market is for this port and how that target will be served.
>>>
>>> Following a negative zero down the path of just another *nix which sucks completely abandons the existing market which is funding everything.
>>>
>>> Everybody has heard all of this talk about Go and Rust and script language of the week and jumping to LLVM based compilers pretty much ensuring the bulk of the existing code base won't compile because *nix couldn't handle all of the VMS extensions which are in use.
>>
>> Step away from the keyboard!  I don't know where you got such foolish ideas.
>>
>
> They aren't foolish ideas, they are what has been spouted in here. Keeping the *nix TCP libraries for ___any___ length of time and porting more stuff from *nix like CUPS ensures you will be creating a *nix which sucks.
>
> The TCP/IP software appliance is the one and only thing which could justify continued existence of OpenVMS on another platform. In the mad rush to make a *nix which sucks, that hasn't been done.
>
>> OpenVMS on X86 will be the same OS.  You'll be able to cluster (with VSI versions of the OS) across 3 architectures.
>
> I remember hearing similar things about Ultrix.
>
>> The goal is compile, link and go -- same as it was for IA64.  We're putting some effort into undoing a decade of deferred development and there will be (as Hoff has pointed out) much more to do after the first X86 release.
>
> Except for the ADA systems. They get to just leave, tossing everything with an HP label from every unit of their business.
>
> Except for insert-language-here systems. The get to just leave, tossing everything with an HP label from every unit of their business.
>
> I've never seen a *nix compiler for VAX BASIC so Dave really should be nervous.
>

Ya know, Dave WAS nervous, but hopeful.  Dave also has a database 
product still in use written mostly in Macro-32.

But once again, you're predicting without any idea of what might happen. 
  You say there will not be an Ada compiler.  How do you know that? 
Perhaps there is not one now, or any announced plans for one.  But VSI 
will look at what their customers are asking for, and if there is demand 
and good business sense to do so, do you doubt John's ability to produce 
a new up to date Ada compiler?

"Wolf!  The wolf is coming!" cried the boy ...