[Info-vax] OpenSSL CSWS-2.2-1

[Dave Froble]

On 4/7/2019 10:21 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 4/7/19 10:06 AM, Neil Rieck wrote:
>>
>> We attempted to move support from HPE to VSI last year but our
>> management would not approve the purchase of software relicensing by VSI.

I'm not aware of VSI's pricing, but, if long term support is desired, 
then I personally think it is just stupid to charge any significant 
re-licensing fees.  That just means they won't get the support money.

It would be interesting to know just what fees were quoted.  And for how 
many systems.  Be a good indicator of which side, or both, are being 
unreasonable.

> I know this is not what people want to hear and I will be blamed
> for the bad news (always shoot the messenger!) but I have seen
> this as a potential sticking point since the announcement of the
> creation of VSI.
>
> When the recent discussion about Intersystems was going
> on I saw it again.  There is a very finite expense in
> VARs moving to the new version of VMS.  Both on the
> current architecture and on the future new architecture.
> One must buy new equipment to develop, test and maintain
> the product on the new architecture.  One must buy the
> new version of the OS and the necessary licenses to use
> it.  And one must weigh that cost against expected revenues.
> When one was already considering dropping support it can
> become very hard to justify the needed expense when one
> has other platforms that more than supply the revenue
> to keep the company successful.

Well, you just made a big leap there Bill, with nothing to justify it. 
I did not notice Neil mentioning any plans to drop support, or move to 
alternates.

> Sadly, I think this forced change may be more detrimental
> to the continued success of VMS than people either expect
> or want.  And, the way HPE is handling their end (at least
> from what I can see and my perception of it) is not going
> to help.  They wanted to kill VMS.  I think they still do
> because its continued success would reflect badly on their
> decision to kill it.  I expect they will do nothing to aids
> in VSI's successful revival of VMS and quite the contrary
> will do all they can to scuttle it.

If HP(e) wanted to kill VMS, all they had to do was not give it to VSI.

Then again, they may have had some legal reasons to do so.  Doesn't mean 
they want VSI to succeed.

The bottom line, VSI should be taking the "long view" if they want to 
succeed.

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