[Info-vax] EU will abandon daylight savings time in 2021

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 4/6/2019 3:11 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 4/6/19 1:43 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 4/5/2019 8:15 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 4/5/19 2:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/2019 12:49 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/5/19 11:48 AM, Baldrick wrote:
>>>>>> Didn't the US adopt different dates for "energy saving"? Is that 
>>>>>> ruled out now with better efficiency LED lights? Europe 
>>>>>> effectively banned incandescent lighting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have heard this before.  Supposedly the idea started with
>>>>> Ben Franklin to conserve on candle use.  Then in more modern
>>>>> times to conserve energy.  In both cases it really doesn't
>>>>> make any sense at all.  Who in Ben Franklin's day or ours
>>>>> today does not start their day before the sun comes up and
>>>>> not end it till long after the sun has gone down.  All DST
>>>>> has ever done is shift the daylight period in regards the
>>>>> wall clock.  It has never provided more daylight and thus
>>>>> a savings of whatever means was used to generate artificial
>>>>> light.  I'm retired and I still rise before the sun and go
>>>>> to bed long after the sun has departed.
>>>>
>>>> Sunrise and sunset depends on location and time of year.
>>>
>>> Quite true.
>>>
>>>> If we pick a random location like Pennsylvania USA then
>>>> at midsummer the sun raises around 5:30 with DST and 4:30
>>>> without DST. I suspect there are people in Pennsylvania that
>>>> get up later than that.
>>>
>>> According to the website I just checked sunrise in PA on the
>>> longest day of the years is 5:40.
>>
>> OK 5:40. Without DST that would be 4:40.
> 
> No, it's 5:40 and with DST it's 6:40.

It is 5:40 EDT with DST in place and that is 4:40 EST without DST.

Check the table.

Or just look out the window in the morning - it is 6:31 with DST
tomorrow and still more than 2 months to midsummer day.

Arne