[Info-vax] OpenVMS Development Annoyances

[Kerry Main]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
> via Info-vax
> Sent: April 21, 2019 1:35 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] OpenVMS Development Annoyances
> 
> On 4/21/2019 10:23 AM, seasoned_geek wrote:
> > On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> >>
> >>>> There's no job scheduler.  Yes, I'm aware of the add-ons.  No,
> >>>> batch isn't a scheduler.  Batch was good enough and was useful for
> >>>> what we were doing back in the early VAX era, but our needs have
> changed.
> >>>
> >>> What exactly do you need from a job scheduler ?
> >>
> >> I'd like to have a way to register an app for startup, and to
> >> register callbacks when the app tips over, to automatically try a few
> >> restarts but avoid a crash-loop, to collect failure-related data, and
> >> a way to check if a certain app is running via API and via shell.
> >> And I'd prefer to not to poll process names.  Fairly standard stuff.
> >> Is it running?  Why not?  Can it restart?  Can I get a notification
> >> when some part of production tips over?  Where do I send my run-time
> >> logs, and my error-, failure-, and event-related logging?
> >>
> >
> > You've basically described what ACMS does. It will even give you
> > throttle control, allowing you to set minimum and maximum numbers for
> > task servers.
> 
> I would have considered a job scheduler and a transaction monitor to be
two
> different things.
> 

Agree - they are two separate products which address two separate and
different sets of requirements.

> Apparently someone at DEC agreed since they had both DECScheduler and
> ACMS.
> 

Yes.  Same for other OS platforms - they have separate products for Job
Schedulers and TP Monitors. Neither of which are typically native to the OS.
They are usually both addressed with commercial LP offerings from vendors.

Google " OpenVMS job schedulers" for a few of the commercial job schedulers
available for OpenVMS.

> I will leave it to Steve to comment on whether he thinks ACMS is a good
fit
> for his requirements.
> 
> Arne
> 


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com