[Info-vax] OpenSSL CSWS-2.2-1

[Kerry Main]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
> via Info-vax
> Sent: April 7, 2019 2:55 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] OpenSSL CSWS-2.2-1
> 
> On 4/7/2019 10:21 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> > When the recent discussion about Intersystems was going on I saw it
> > again.  There is a very finite expense in VARs moving to the new
> > version of VMS.  Both on the current architecture and on the future
> > new architecture.
> > One must buy new equipment to develop, test and maintain the product
> > on the new architecture.  One must buy the new version of the OS and
> > the necessary licenses to use it.  And one must weigh that cost
> > against expected revenues.
> > When one was already considering dropping support it can become very
> > hard to justify the needed expense when one has other platforms that
> > more than supply the revenue to keep the company successful.
> 
> They don't need to buy new x86-64 HW - they can run it on VM's.
> 
> And I expect that VSI offer ISV's (I assume you mean ISV's not VAR's) licenses
> for free or very little.
> 
> So the cost is the effort to port and test. Which obviously can be substantial.
> 
> > Sadly, I think this forced change may be more detrimental to the
> > continued success of VMS than people either expect or want.
> 
> The move from Itanium to x86-64 will certainly hurt VMS short term.
> 
> But given that Itanium is dead then either VMS move or VMS is dead. It was
> not a real choice.
> 
> And long term being on a standard HW platform may turn out to be a good
> thing.
> 
> Arne
> 

Agree.

Just look at Oracle license costs alone. Oracle savings alone often stated as one of the reasons to move Oracle on OpenVMS A64/I64 to Linux on X86-64.

Sample licensing for Oracle for small environment: (5 core server)using list pricing:
OpenVMS - 5 cores x$50,000 x Oracle  Processor Core Factor (1 for Alpha, Integrity) = $250,000
Linux - 5 cores x$50,000 x Oracle Processor Core Factor (0.5 for X86-64) = $125,000

Going fwd with OpenVMS/X86-64:
OpenVMS - - 5 cores x$50,000 x Oracle  Processor Core Factor (0.5 for X86-64) = $125,000
Linux - - 5 cores x$50,000 x Oracle  Processor Core Factor (0.5 for X86-64) = $125,000

Also remember that, similar to RH Linux and Windows, the OpenVMS subscription licensing for VSI remains the same whether the server is on a physical or virtual VM server. 


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com