[Info-vax] Internationalization

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Tue Jan 1 03:02:50 EST 2019


On 12/31/2018 7:01 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Den 2018-12-31 kl. 17:36, skrev Dave Froble:
>> On 12/31/2018 7:00 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2018-12-31 kl. 08:14, skrev Dave Froble:
>>>> On 12/30/2018 8:25 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-12-30, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/29/2018 4:46 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VAX, Alpha or Itanium are unlikely to see any work on UTF-8, and
>>>>>>> certainly not until well after the x86-64 port and a pile or
>>>>>>> three of
>>>>>>> other work is completed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no new VAX, Alpha, or itanic chips.  They are DEAD!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless there's something I am unaware of, you can still buy new
>>>>> Itanium systems.
>>>>
>>>> For a short time, yes, but not for long.
>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone was to put significant work into any of those three
>>>>>> environments, they're probably also asking to be dead.  There is no
>>>>>> known (to me) reasons for any such activity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on VSI's offerings, there is clearly still a need for supported
>>>>> Alpha systems. It doesn't matter that the Alphas might be emulated
>>>>> Alpha systems because it means people are still running Alpha based
>>>>> code in production.
>>>>
>>>> VSI has already addressed this, with Versions 8.4 2L1 and 2L2.  These
>>>> are VSI releases, not HP releases, which takes HP(e) out of the
>>>> picture.  While they may have on on going releases,
>>>
>>> Can you explain that "may have on on going releases".
>>
>> No Nan-Erik, I'm not VSI.  I cannot say what they might do.  I can
>> make some guesses.
>>
>
> I do not understand your answer. Was that ment to read:
>
> "While they may have _no_ on going releases" ???
>
> It was that double "on on" I did not understand.

Yes, a typo, my bad ....

>> You mentioned perhaps never going off Alpha.  Can you suggest reasons
>> for that?
>
> The most obviouse being no further need for VMS at the time
> the X86 port is available.
>
>> DEC made some very reliable stuff, but, in time the costs and efforts
>> will increase.  I guess my question is, do reasons for not using x86
>> when it's available exist?
>>
>
> Same reasons as today to not use VMS. A new HW platform doesn't
> change much for those that do not want to stay on VMS anyway.


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