[Info-vax] Internationalization

[Dave Froble]

On 1/1/2019 7:45 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2019-01-01, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Things would start with the DEC people, looking perplexed, asking what
>> was wrong with what existed.  Some of the RSTS people were rather good
>> to explain the lack(s) and how to remedy the situation.  The DEC people
>> did listen, and came through, and some of that is what made VMS
>> successful.  Some of the issues I remember were print and batch queues,
>> and the capabilities required.  And other stuff.
>>
>
> How many of them asked for a RSTS/E style detach ?
>
> When I moved to VAX/VMS, I ended up pushing the jobs which needed to
> detach to dedicated queues on VMS and then writing a control program to
> manage the job via messaging. For the jobs in question, that was the
> most appropriate way to port them to VMS.
>
> How did you handle RSTS/E detached jobs ?
>
> Simon.
>

Wow!  That was some time ago, and now that you mentioned it, the DETACH 
capability did come up.  Never did get a match for the RSTS method. 
But, there were some lively discussions.  The DEC people did seem to 
understand, and tried to offer possible solutions.

What ended up happening is the RSTS people began to learn how to use 
VMS.  Both sides sort of ended up meeting in the middle.

My solution for detached processes was to write a program that read some 
parameters, then created a detached process, feeding it whatever 
parameters were needed.  Yeah, when the batch queues were greatly 
improved, I know some did similar things to what you mentioned.  By then 
we had the solution we were happy with.  We had a messaging system that 
came from our RSTS environment, and modified to use VMS mailboxes, that 
provided message queues for communicating with the detached processes. 
So instead of running a program, getting any needed input done, and then 
detaching, we instead created a separate process and fed it the 
information.  Just a case of learning how do what we needed on VMS.

That was a fun time ....

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