[Info-vax] Most popular application programming languages on VMS ?

[Simon Clubley]

On 2019-01-11, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 1/11/2019 8:40 AM, John Reagan wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 6:31:53 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2019 5:00 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>   > Now, that one I just don't understand.  How about if I state that the
>>>   > code is a donation to VSI with no strings attached?  How about if I sell
>>>   > you the code for $1 ?  Or one cent?
>>>
>>> Copyright does not disappear just because the
>>> copyright notice get removed.
>>>
>>> You need to explicit grant him rights.
>>>
>>> And if you pick your own  wording then it will be bad because
>>> he will need to pay a lawyer big bucks to review it.
>>>
>>> If you use a recognized permissive open source license: Apache,
>>> BSD, MIT etc. then everybody should be happy.
>>>
>>> Arne
>> 
>> ^^ this ^^
>> 
>> Even if I get some email from somebody claiming to be you that grants
>> me rights, that is not sufficient.  Your estate can easily dispute
>> such an unproven email and file a civil suit that could go on
>> forever.
>
> I am not sure that I can follow you.
>

John is absolutely and completely 100% correct about this.

I also suspect he may even have been banned from looking at any patents
in order to try and avoid the risk someone may try to hit VSI with
the triple damages thing in case someone ever tries to assert a patent
violation claim (either justified or unjustified) against VSI.

> You get a usenet post or an email from "me" with some code
> and an Apache 2.0 license slapped on it.
>
> You have received the code under Apache 2.0 license.
>

You _claim_ the code is under the Apache 2.0 licence. That doesn't mean
it actually is. It also doesn't exclude the possibility that code from
an incompatible licence has been inserted into the code you are submitting
and thereby tainting it.

> I don't see the question whether it is really me or
> someone faking my email address changing anything.
>
> As long as the code and the license is a bundle
> from the same person then it should not matter who
> that person is (in the context of the open source
> license).
>

It's not about whether the code is from you or not. It's about whether
the history of the code is as claimed.

Simon.

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