[Info-vax] Most popular application programming languages on VMS ?

[Dave Froble]

On 1/12/2019 4:15 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2019-01-11, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 1/11/2019 8:40 AM, John Reagan wrote:
>>> On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 6:31:53 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/2019 5:00 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>    > Now, that one I just don't understand.  How about if I state that the
>>>>    > code is a donation to VSI with no strings attached?  How about if I sell
>>>>    > you the code for $1 ?  Or one cent?
>>>>
>>>> Copyright does not disappear just because the
>>>> copyright notice get removed.
>>>>
>>>> You need to explicit grant him rights.
>>>>
>>>> And if you pick your own  wording then it will be bad because
>>>> he will need to pay a lawyer big bucks to review it.
>>>>
>>>> If you use a recognized permissive open source license: Apache,
>>>> BSD, MIT etc. then everybody should be happy.
>>>>
>>>> Arne
>>>
>>> ^^ this ^^
>>>
>>> Even if I get some email from somebody claiming to be you that grants
>>> me rights, that is not sufficient.  Your estate can easily dispute
>>> such an unproven email and file a civil suit that could go on
>>> forever.
>>
>> I am not sure that I can follow you.
>>
>
> John is absolutely and completely 100% correct about this.
>
> I also suspect he may even have been banned from looking at any patents
> in order to try and avoid the risk someone may try to hit VSI with
> the triple damages thing in case someone ever tries to assert a patent
> violation claim (either justified or unjustified) against VSI.
>
>> You get a usenet post or an email from "me" with some code
>> and an Apache 2.0 license slapped on it.
>>
>> You have received the code under Apache 2.0 license.
>>
>
> You _claim_ the code is under the Apache 2.0 licence. That doesn't mean
> it actually is. It also doesn't exclude the possibility that code from
> an incompatible licence has been inserted into the code you are submitting
> and thereby tainting it.
>
>> I don't see the question whether it is really me or
>> someone faking my email address changing anything.
>>
>> As long as the code and the license is a bundle
>> from the same person then it should not matter who
>> that person is (in the context of the open source
>> license).
>>
>
> It's not about whether the code is from you or not. It's about whether
> the history of the code is as claimed.
>
> Simon.
>

Which appears to mean that any existing code cannot be trusted, if 
you're paranoid.

I wonder if John can trust the LLVM stuff he's using?

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