[Info-vax] Python on VMS

[Dave Froble]

On 1/16/2019 12:22 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 1/16/19 12:01 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 1/16/2019 9:11 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 1/16/19 8:34 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/2019 7:55 AM, Neil Rieck wrote:
>>>>> Comment-1: I have been installing run-time libraries into VAX, Alpha
>>>>> and Itanium for 31-years and have never experienced any breakage with
>>>>> compiled programs. Many of these systems just continue to run
>>>>> forever. Systems requiring a specific version of Python are just one
>>>>> careless upgrade away from failure.
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing unusual in that new code does not run in old
>>>> environment - that is standard.
>>>>
>>>> But most like when old code continue to run in new environments.
>>>> Apparently "most" does not include the Python guys.
>>>
>>> And when I complained about this with PHP everyone who
>>> heard it just said "So what, live with it".
>>
>> So do those that want to use Python 3.x.
>>
>> But I don't think PHP and Python are comparable in this
>> regard.
>>
>> Certain PHP features are being removed or disabled by default
>> for security reasons.
>>
>> But PHP actually do try to maintain compatibility. I believe
>> that was one of the reasons PHP 6 was ditched - they could
>> not switch to Unicode without breaking too much.
>
> Sorry, my experience does not match yours.  When I was still
> working at the University the Department used PHP a lot.  It
> was used on the website by most of the professors and was used
> to teach web development for courses in three different majors.
> Every time a new version of PHP came out it broke pretty much
> all of the existing PHP scripts.  Anything beyond the trivial
> stopped working and some were even un repairable and had to be
> re-written from scratch.  Not the kind of production environment
> I would want to work in.
>
>>
>> Python seems willing to change anything they think should
>> have been done differently.
>
> Even at the cost of breaking existing systems?  Guess they
> don't place much value on their users time or effort.

As a casual observer, I'd have to agree.  Nope!  Not one little bit. 
Applications to do a  job?  What's that?  Not my problem!

YAEL, I like that, so appropriate.


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