[Info-vax] Python on VMS

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 1/17/2019 4:57 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 1/17/2019 12:46 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 1/16/2019 1:21 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Saying that it is just as hard in Python as any other traditional
>>> language just shows the ignorance of the one claiming that.
>>
>> There are many other languages with good libraries.
> 
> This is the issue.  Library routines can be implemented in many 
> languages, even Cobol.  Perhaps what Python has done better is to gather 
> together more library routines in a distribution package.
> 
> I've got lots of library routines written in and for Basic, and am 
> constantly adding to them.  Want Socket communications?  Want HTTP 
> communications.  Got them.  Now, HTTPS is a bit of a OpenSSL issue, not 
> a language issue.
> 
> I doubt I'm unique in this.  Most likely there are plenty of shops who 
> have helpful library routines.  Just most of us don't embrace the YAEL 
> syndrome.
> 
> I will admit that my libraries contain hundreds of tools, not the 
> thousands I've seen claimed for such as Python.

Most people just want to get their job done as fast and easy as
possible.

It is much faster to use an existing good library than to develop
ones own library.

If you need something done then Python would typically have a
library that can do it and it will typical be easy to use.

>> I would not expect too much for RESTful web service calls in Cobol,
>> but Python is not the only one.
> 
> Why not?  Perhaps talk to Richard?

I believe he does that type of stuff in C#.

>> But Python almost always have something and more important
>> something that is relative easy to use.
>>
>> Python is a language where one usually get positive
>> surprised if one need top get something done without
>> too much hassle.
> 
> No, such products are for those who will not or can not develop their 
> own.

Or those that even though they could develop their own
don't want to waste their time doing something in a cumbersome
way when easier ways exist.

Arne