[Info-vax] VAXStation 3100

Fri Jan 18 18:06:52 EST 2019

On 1/18/2019 2:24 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 1/18/19 12:26 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 1/18/2019 9:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 1/18/19 12:56 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
>>>> On 1/17/2019 3:44 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick update being as I'm the guy who started this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turns out I have 7.3 CD's (not sure about layered products,
>>>>> I have 1 CD labeled that but I know they can't be on 1 CD!)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, in this case "Layered Products" means things like DECram, DWMotif,
>>>> Pathworks, etc.  Not BASIC, COBOL, etc.
>>>
>>> I suspected as much when I mounted the CD and looked at it.
>>> But I do have a set of LP CD's dated 2004 which are probably
>>> what I need.  No index, however, so finding what i want (and
>>> have a license for) is going to be a chore.  These did not
>>> come in the usual packaging which had a paper list of what
>>> was there and what disk it was on.
>>
>> If you have a set of "Consolidated Distribution" disks, the "list" is
>> on every disk.
>
> I will have t o mount one and take a look.  In the past I
> was used to using the paper list.  Highlight what I was
> interested in and only play with those CD's.
>
>>
>>>>> Install went easy.  I am using a 1GB Fujitsu drive.  And,
>>>>> I will likely take a look at net booting and running it
>>>>> diskless.  This is my M76, my most powerful one.  On
>>>>> another note, I tried the Infoserver.  Nothing on the
>>>>> hard disk.  There were two CD's inside the case, one with
>>>>> what looks like a key written on the envelope.  That looks
>>>>> like it should boot, but it never goes beyond the start
>>>>> of the process and then periodic access to the disk.  The
>>>>> other says not bootable right off the bat.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I have heard that the Infoserver software is on the
>>>>> Freeware CD.  Is this true?  If so, what do I do with
>>>>> it if I can't even boot the machine?  Can I put it on
>>>>> my mop server and remote boot the Infoserver to install
>>>>> a system on it?
>>>>
>>>> If it's in an ISO type format you might be able to write it to a CD
>>>> and boot the Infoserver from it.I looked at it once but that was long
>>>> ago.
>>>
>>> Well, they are .img files.  Not sure what that means but
>>> Brasero on Linux happily wrote it to a CD. Didn't boot
>>> though.  Not sure where to go from  here with that but
>>> it isn't stopping my program, just slowing it down.
>>>
>>> I have DECNET running.  I have LAT running on two of my
>>> Unix boxes and somehow they advertise their availability.
>>> How can I get VMS to do that?  I tried moving my PAKs
>>> over OPA0: but that was a dismal failure.  Overrun after
>>> no more than 2 lines.  Wold like to just use DECNET to
>>> move them and then get on from there but I can't figure
>>> out how to let the other boxes know the VMS systems is
>>> there.
>>
>> Where do you currently have the PAKs?
>
> On other machines like where I get m y email and where I am
> running my terminal emulator.

If I had no other option, I'd bring up the data (text) in a window, such 
as Notepad, cut, paste into a VMS session with EDT running, and when 
ready just exit EDT, thus having the text on the VMS system.

>> While DECnet can be very useful, it's not so much with other than VMS
>> systems.  You should get TCP/IP running, and then it's as simple as
>> using FTP.
>
> Probably true, but I  have DECNET running and other machines
> also have DECNET running and can talk with each other but
> none of them can see the VMS machine.  I was hoping it was
> a simple command that would cause it to do whatever the
> others are doing (from a protocol standpoint) and become
> publicly visible.

I'm not sure what you are looking for, "publicly visible".

To know about other DECnet nodes, one would use NCP and set them up as 
"known nodes".

To access other nodes over DECnet one might set up proxys in the 
AUTHORIZE program.

$ syh
OpenVMS V7.2  on node DFE90A  18-JAN-2019 18:00:21.21  Uptime  132 12:27:29
$ ncp
NCP>sho known nodes

Known Node Volatile Summary as of 18-JAN-2019 18:00:30

Executor node = 1.26 (DFE90A)

State                    = on
Identification           = DECnet for OpenVMS VAX V7.2

     Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node
                               Links

  1.20 (DFE)                                   ISA-0          0
  1.21 (JODI)                                  ISA-0          0
  1.22 (DAVID)                                 ISA-0          0
  1.23 (DFE90)                                 ISA-0          0
  1.24 (DFE60)                                 ISA-0          0
  1.28 (DFE90B)                                ISA-0          0
  1.30 (KAREN)                                 ISA-0          0
  1.31 (BRYCE)                                 ISA-0          0
  1.33 (DFE10L)                                ISA-0          0
  1.34 (AS800)                                 ISA-0          0
  1.35 (DS20)                                  ISA-0          0
  1.1001 (SRVR1)                               ISA-0          0
  1.1003 (SRVR3)                               ISA-0          0
  1.1004 (SRVR4)                               ISA-0          0
  1.1005 (SRVR5)                               ISA-0          0

Note, the last 4 are terminal servers.

Have fun learning NCP, it's rather easy.

$ go sys$system
$ run authorize
UAF> sho */prox

  Default proxies are flagged with (D)

JODI::*
     * (D)

DFE60::*
     * (D)

SARA::*
     * (D)

DFE90B::*
     * (D)

DFE::*
     * (D)

DFE10L::*
     * (D)

KAREN::*
     * (D)

BRYCE::*
     * (D)

AS800::*
     * (D)

>>> Am having fun, though.
>>
>> So, then, no problem, right?
>
> Little by little things are coming back.
>
> bill
>
>

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