[Info-vax] link to what is actually being ported to x86?

[gérard Calliet]

Le 06/06/2019 à 20:43, Arne Vajhøj a écrit :
> On 6/6/2019 1:51 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2019-06-06, gérard Calliet <gerard.calliet at pia-sofer.fr> wrote:
>>> One important aspect here is the information. As for VMS it is important
>>> to say "there is a clear future for Ada on VMS, and there is now support
>>> for it". Because this information inhibit somehow the wrong decisions to
>>> go out from VMS.
>>
>> But the problem Gerard is that there _isn't_ a clear future for Ada
>> on VMS. At the end of next month VSI will have been around for 5 years
>> and VSI still don't have a clear answer.
>>
>> I _don't_ blame VSI for that one little bit BTW, because, given the
>> history of Ada compilers on VMS, they have clearly inherited a very
>> difficult situation not of their making.
> 
> On top of that then VMS has the problem that lots of people
> want XYZ on VMS but very few people are willing to spend time
> making XYZ work on VMS.
Totally right. On my opinion, it is THE problem with the VSM ecosystem.

I add the fact that even if you will, because of the littleness of your 
real strenghts, you cannot do all you want to do.
> 
> That put 95+% of the work on VSI.
> 
> Sure for many XYZ's the customers may want an official VSI
> approved product (most likely that includes Ada!). But my guess
> is that VSI would be much more willing to commit to that
> if they knew that there were a large community providing
> continuously bugfixes and enhancements and that VSI just
> needed to test and package.
I don't think there will ever be a large community. But I think, being 
humble, it could possible to use existent strengths (mine, others I 
know) and get something usable.

And, in such situation, VSI could help somehow, but not assume a 
complete support. Trading in this issue like with ISVs doing some 
software. And, very important, just communicating "something exists, 
have a look".

I had proposed that to VSI years ago, and they don't agree on this 
method... And so they cannot say anything - real - about "the future" of 
Ada on VMS.
> 
> Arne
> 
> 
Gérard Calliet