[Info-vax] STARTREK.BCK Restore - How?
John Reagan
xyzzy1959 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 12 10:05:57 EDT 2019
On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 9:49:18 AM UTC-4, VAXman- wrote:
> In article <qdqrnc$tkn$1 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
> >On 2019-06-12, Tom Wade <nospam at void.blackhole.mx> wrote:
> >> On 2019-05-11 19:32, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> >>> I've occasionally wondered whether making "-V" the default on OpenVMS
> >>> would be worth the hassles that'd cause, too.
> >>
> >> Yes, I agree, but it should be /VMS not "-V". I find it constantly
> >> irritating that programs are 'ported' onto VMS without providing decent
> >> DCL parsing, and forcing us to use Unix style
> >> single-character-hieroglyphics for arguments.
> >>
> >
> >It has been multiple decades since you were forced to use single characters
> >to supply options under Unix. Now you have the best of both worlds; in many
> >programs you can either use a single character for common options (if you
> >wish) or a longer option name for all options.
> >
> >Take a look at the following for an example of what a modern Unix style
> >command line looks like:
> >
> >https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangCommandLineReference.html
> >
> >All options have meaningful names and some common ones also have single
> >character names as an alternative as well.
> >
> >VSI are writing a mapping module to map the existing DCL qualifiers and
> >options to the clang options, but there's a reason why there's no point
> >in VSI going to the effort of making up a specific (and artificial) DCL
> >qualifier for every single option on that list.
> >
> >If you need to go deeper that what the current DCL qualifiers and options
> >provide, it is extremely viable (and preferred) to just use the existing
> >clang options directly so you are using the same option names as everyone
> >else uses.
> >
> >When we are talking about software which is used on multiple operating
> >systems, this whole "give everything a DCL qualifier" idea is something
> >that makes things different for the sake of being different without no
> >real benefits and actually makes things worse.
>
> If you could only abbreviate them in a fashion akin to DCL. ;)
>
> --
> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
>
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Unique to only 4 chars?
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