[Info-vax] STARTREK.BCK Restore - How?

[Dave Froble]

On 6/12/2019 9:49 AM, VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <qdqrnc$tkn$1 at dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>> On 2019-06-12, Tom Wade <nospam at void.blackhole.mx> wrote:
>>> On 2019-05-11 19:32, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>> I've occasionally wondered whether making "-V" the default on OpenVMS
>>>> would be worth the hassles that'd cause, too.
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree, but it should be /VMS not "-V".  I find it constantly
>>> irritating that programs are 'ported' onto VMS without providing decent
>>> DCL parsing, and forcing us to use Unix style
>>> single-character-hieroglyphics for arguments.
>>>
>>
>> It has been multiple decades since you were forced to use single characters
>> to supply options under Unix. Now you have the best of both worlds; in many
>> programs you can either use a single character for common options (if you
>> wish) or a longer option name for all options.
>>
>> Take a look at the following for an example of what a modern Unix style
>> command line looks like:
>>
>> https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangCommandLineReference.html
>>
>> All options have meaningful names and some common ones also have single
>> character names as an alternative as well.

To me this is a grey areas, and Simon makes some good points.  It can be 
a bit hard to give up things we've come to expect.  But different names 
can be a big problem too.  Then one needs the magic decoder ring.

>> VSI are writing a mapping module to map the existing DCL qualifiers and
>> options to the clang options, but there's a reason why there's no point
>> in VSI going to the effort of making up a specific (and artificial) DCL
>> qualifier for every single option on that list.
>>
>> If you need to go deeper that what the current DCL qualifiers and options
>> provide, it is extremely viable (and preferred) to just use the existing
>> clang options directly so you are using the same option names as everyone
>> else uses.
>>
>> When we are talking about software which is used on multiple operating
>> systems, this whole "give everything a DCL qualifier" idea is something
>> that makes things different for the sake of being different without no
>> real benefits and actually makes things worse.
>
> If you could only abbreviate them in a fashion akin to DCL. ;)
>

What?  Now you want Unix to be as good as VMS?  HA HA HA

:-)

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