[Info-vax] VSI OpenVMS Hobbyist Program Announced.

[johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk]

On Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:04:15 UTC+1, Bill Gunshannon  wrote:
> On 6/14/19 9:56 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > On 6/14/2019 8:40 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> >> On 6/14/19 6:40 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> >>> On 6/14/2019 9:20 AM, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
> >>>> To be blunt, this is a huge step down from the HP program for us 
> >>>> that have our own compatible hardware and want to run it 24/7 or at 
> >>>> least not have to redo the license every 180 days.
> >>>>
> >>>> I really hope this is not the last word on VSI Hobbyist licenses.
> >>>
> >>> The page clearly state "Student" several times.
> >>
> >> Then they should have said it was an EDU Program rather than a
> >> Hobbyist Program.
> > 
> > Wasn't EDU for formal education?
> 
> Isn't STUDENT an indicator of formal education?
> 
> > 
> > This says student but does not specify any formal requirements to
> > qualify.
> 
> Most people would see a meaning inthe name I would have thought.
> STUDENT certainly doesn't imply HOBBYIST.  At least not to me.
> 
> > 
> >>> It makes perfect sense to me that VSI prioritize making VMS available
> >>> for new users over making VMS available to the classic hobbyist crowd.
> >>>
> >>> There is simply more business opportunities in getting some 25 yo's to
> >>> try boot and login to VMS than to provide free VMS licenses to
> >>> some people that as a hobby play with 10/20/30/40 yo HW.
> >>
> >> This won't cut it.  The largest majority of my students before I
> >> retired were running Macs, not Windows.  That  number has probably
> >> gone up rather than down.  And that was with free Windows licenses
> >> available to any student who wanted one.  All the Professors but
> >> 2 had Macs.
> > 
> > In general it is probably a bit more mixed with Windows, Linux and
> > Mac.
> 
> None of our students were running Linux on their laptops. (I do, but
> then I'm strange.)  Windows was decreasing.  They had access to it
> in the labs but personal laptops were mostly Macs.  And this system
> can not be used in a lab environment making its adoption in a real
> academic environment untenable.  Maybe we need an explanation of
> just what VSI thinks this is for.
> 
> > 
> > But Mac should not be a problem. Parallels Desktop.
> 
> Mac is a problem if it only runs on Windows.
> 
> bill

?

Maybe Bill missed (or misunderstood) the reference to 
Parallels Desktop?

https://www.parallels.com/uk/products/desktop/

I don't really speak Mac, but I know people who use Mac 
for their corporate employers end user IT or related
things (the usual MS Windows stuff), courtesy 
of Parallels Desktop; it's kind of a major reason 
Parallels Desktop exists.

Parallels Desktop is even available as a Student 
Edition (presumably at a discount price, hence it 
requires valid student ID).

So maybe FreeAXP on a Mac won't be that difficult
after all?