[Info-vax] Windows terminal revamped and open sourced

[Dave Froble]

On 6/17/2019 1:38 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2019-06-17, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 6/17/2019 9:34 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2019-06-17 kl. 14:57, skrev Bob Koehler:
>>>> In article <qe4unb$qcn$1 at dont-email.me>,
>>>> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> An old hardware terminal such as the VT-line are today always
>>>>> a worse solution than an termninal amulator running on your
>>>>> everyday computer client you are using for anything else.
>>>>> No matter if it is Windows, Linux oc Mac, they all have
>>>>> emulators that are much better to work with than an VT520.
>>>>
>>>>      Except that the keyboard is wrong.  And often the emulation is wrong.
>>>>> Yes, VT-terminals are can be fun from an historical point of
>>>>> view. But there is no reason to use them for real work.
>>>>
>>>>      Except that they work correctly, and have a correct keyboard.
>>>>
>
> Define "correct keyboard". I last used a DEC keyboard over 15 years ago
> but use the EDT keypad layout on a daily basis. Works just fine for me.
>
>>>
>>> Those like you are the ones pushing VMS over the edge...
>>
>> Over the edge?  What edge?
>>
>
> I'm not sure but I think Jan-Erik may be referring to the attitude of
> "it's always been that way in the past, so there's no reason why it
> can't be that way in the future." Those are the people who refuse to
> adapt (or are incapable of adapting) to a new way of doing things
> even with the changes going on around them.

If I prefer what I know and LIKE, what's wrong with that?

> If I couldn't use the EDT keypad in the future for some reason, I would
> just learn new keystrokes, but some people don't seem to be even able
> to adapt to slightly different keyboard layouts.
>
>>
>> Terminals vs terminal emulators.  Hmmm ....
>>
>> You seem to favor emulators, but, your customers have real CPUs, not
>> emulators.  Why is a real terminal so bad, but a real CPU is Ok?
>>
>
> What makes you think they have "real" CPUs ? :-)

I cannot count how many times Jan-Erik has mentioned that one customer 
has three (3) DS20 systems.  See, my memory works ....  sometimes.

> A good number of people appear to be using emulated VAX or Alpha
> systems running on x86 hardware.
>
>> Tolerance is a good thing.
>>
>> Well, sometimes.  Don't get me started on junk PC keyboards, my
>> tolerance for them is little to none.
>>
>
> Get a decent keyboard. :-) There are some good PC keyboards out there.

Tried some, don't like them.  "Good" for you just may not be good to me.

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