[Info-vax] C99 stuff (Re: The Road to V9.0)

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 9/4/2019 9:30 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 9/3/19 7:18 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 9/3/2019 3:45 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>> In article <7a8b9e6f-5e40-4d52-88bf-816bca35b790 at googlegroups.com>, IanD
>>> <iloveopenvms at gmail.com> writes:
>>>> Money would be better invested in bringing VMS into a DevOps happy 
>>>> state of
>>>>   being and easily cloud deployable than in giving the DEC compilers a
>>>>   defib jolt.
>>>
>>> Now that is a real false dichotomy.
>>>
>>> I suspect that DevOps will soon be buried in the graveyard of bullshit
>>> buzzwords.
>>
>> Not likely.
>>
>> It is already widely used.
>>
>> And there is a good business case for it: being able to
>> get new code into production faster and with fewer
>> deployment errors is good for business.
> 
> That used to be called Software Engineering.
> Then it became Agile.
> Now it's DevOps.

No.

Software engineering is the discipline of systematic methods to software 
development.

Agile is some general principles used by many development methodologies
with focus on the interaction between users and developers and
internally between developers.

Devops is about making deployment to production faster and safer
via automation.

Agile and devops has very little overlap.

Both are a small parts of software engineering. And many would
consider them non-essential parts.

> The only thing with a higher turnover rate than CPUs in this business
> is buzzwords.

We like to put labels on things.

Arne