[Info-vax] C99 stuff (Re: The Road to V9.0)

[Dave Froble]

On 9/4/2019 7:38 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 9/4/2019 9:30 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 9/3/19 7:18 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 9/3/2019 3:45 PM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
>>>> In article <7a8b9e6f-5e40-4d52-88bf-816bca35b790 at googlegroups.com>,
>>>> IanD
>>>> <iloveopenvms at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> Money would be better invested in bringing VMS into a DevOps happy
>>>>> state of
>>>>>   being and easily cloud deployable than in giving the DEC compilers a
>>>>>   defib jolt.
>>>>
>>>> Now that is a real false dichotomy.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that DevOps will soon be buried in the graveyard of bullshit
>>>> buzzwords.
>>>
>>> Not likely.
>>>
>>> It is already widely used.
>>>
>>> And there is a good business case for it: being able to
>>> get new code into production faster and with fewer
>>> deployment errors is good for business.
>>
>> That used to be called Software Engineering.
>> Then it became Agile.
>> Now it's DevOps.
>
> No.
>
> Software engineering is the discipline of systematic methods to software
> development.
>
> Agile is some general principles used by many development methodologies
> with focus on the interaction between users and developers and
> internally between developers.
>
> Devops is about making deployment to production faster and safer
> via automation.
>
> Agile and devops has very little overlap.
>
> Both are a small parts of software engineering. And many would
> consider them non-essential parts.
>
>> The only thing with a higher turnover rate than CPUs in this business
>> is buzzwords.
>
> We like to put labels on things.
>
> Arne

Too many "labels" and many will not know what they stand for ...

What's wrong with an accurate description?


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