[Info-vax] Open source usage, Was Python and various libraries updated

[gérard Calliet]

Le 10/08/2020 à 17:25, Arne Vajhøj a écrit :
> On 8/10/2020 11:09 AM, gérard Calliet wrote:
>> Le 10/08/2020 à 03:50, Simon Clubley a écrit :
>>> On 2020-08-08, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>> And open source could be used for some of he truly critical
>>>> stuff. Linux is becoming very common for SCADA today. And
>>>> they could use GNAT for software development.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That reminded me that VSI hasn't said anything recently about the
>>> possibility of Ada support coming to x86-64 VMS.
> 
>> Last meeting (UK users group by zoom). Bret Cameron: we have no plans 
>> on Ada.
>>
>> Since 2015 I had to rebuild Gnat Ada for Itanium OpenVMS, I didn't get 
>> any collaboration from VSI (except from individuals).
> 
> VSI has limited resources. They have to prioritize.
Agreed. But.

It's now for more than five years I'm only saying "help us to help you".
Ada cannot be a priority. ok. Some invest in Ada for you. Take your 
phone, perhaps for a very low effort something can be done and worth it 
for all.

It's my general opinion on interest of VSI being more fair in the Open 
Source realm. Just do a little bit more to gain trust and help from a 
large enthousiast (and new) community.

The times have changed - it's a pain for us thinking about the huge 
success of internet compared to the Digital decline - and business 
around Open Source paradigm proved it to be very good.

*If* you play the game as it is played by the majority. Is someone using 
now MySql? No. MariaDB. Why? Oracle didn't play the game.
> 
> People can disagree on how they prioritize, but everybody
> should be able to agree that they have to prioritize.
> 
> And I understand why Ada is not a priority. I believe that
> the Ada approach to safe programming is good. But the world
> chose a different path many years before VSI was founded.
Have a look at how Adacore business is good and growing. And  the huge 
role of community in their success. They play the game.


> 
> Arne
>