[Info-vax] Copying savesets over DECnet

[Antonio Carlini]

On Wednesday, 26 August 2020 23:53:03 UTC+1, Stephen Hoffman  wrote:

Thank you to you and to Jim for reminding me of SET RMS/NET. With that the first saveset has copied across successfully.

> FTP, if TCP/IP Services has been installed and configured, and the FTP 
> client and server are enabled on the systems involved.

Yes, but I don't have the space to stage the data locally so I need to stream it off to another system somehow. With DECnet I can do that but with TCP/IP I can't.

> OpenVMS VAX V5.5-2 can have FTP.
> VAX with TCP/IP Services lacks sftp, scp, and ssh.
> So FTP and telnet it is. Security? What security?

> zip "-V" was suggested, but you'll need a current zip (zip 3.0, unzip 
> 6.0) as the earlier versions cannot deal with files larger than ~4 GB.

> And using zip means more storage on your hardware to buffer the 
> intermediate file.


> BACKUP savesets corrupted by FTP can usually be resolved by the 
> Freeware RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_FILE_ATTRIBUTES.COM or some such tool, in 
> the 000TOOLS area of the Freeware.
> Though that reset tool won't work here, because your OpenVMS VAX 
> version is too old.
> You'll have to rummage a different tool to reset the saveset file attributes.
> Or scrounge a recent zip that'll run that far back, and that'll protect 
> the saveset file attributes.

The main use for zip would be (I suspect) to preserve the VMS attributes. Otherwise the tools to do that are basically FDL ... I've done that in the past so I hope I can work my way through that :-) ZIP would be a more sound approach though I guess.

> Or find a SCSI dongle or somebody with a newer DLT, and have them load 
> the contents.

Where's the fun in that :-)


> I dislike old versions.
> OpenVMS is more work than it should be, and old versions further 
> increase the effort.

Well when it comes to VAX old versions is all you have. Actually that's true for Alpha too, and I don't have Itanium. That's not my immediate problem: that's hardware constraints and now I think I'm past that (at least temporarily).

Antonio