[Info-vax] VAX VMS going forward (VAXELN)

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2020-07-22 kl. 16:35, skrev Jan-Erik Söderholm:
> Den 2020-07-22 kl. 15:28, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>> On 7/22/2020 9:02 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2020-07-22, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 7/22/2020 8:34 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> On a more serious note, what I haven't seen discussed is the situation
>>>>> regarding the VAX Layered Products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you just get a core set of the VAX LP source code, such as some of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> compilers, or did you get pretty much everything ever produced for VAX
>>>>> by DEC including products like VAXELN ?
>>>>
>>>> When you say VAXELN do you mean the VMS source code for the tools
>>>> running on VMS generating VAXELN code or do you mean the source code
>>>> for the VAXELN stuff?
>>>>
>>>> (the answer may be the same but it could be different)
>>>
>>> For all practical purposes, they are the same thing.
>>>
>>> I don't know how much experience you have with embedded systems, but
>>> with tools like VAXELN, the libraries used to construct the final
>>> bootable system images ship as part of VAXELN.
>>>
>>> You use a VAXELN compiler running on VMS (such as the VAXELN version
>>> of Pascal) to compile your source code and then you use another VAXELN
>>> tool, also running on VMS, to generate the final system image that is
>>> then booted on the target system.
>>
>> I know that.
>>
>> And the first is obviously useless without the second.
>>
>> But while the first is running on VMS then the second is not.
>>
>> Which could mean a difference per the contract between HPE and VSI.
>>
>> You could argue that if they are treated different in the contract
>> then it an error in the contract, but I doubt anyone was thinking about
>> VAXELN when the drafted the contract.
>>
>> Arne
> 
> And what say the sites still using/running VAXELN? A major kitchen
> applience manufacturer in Sweden had multiple VAXELN system for
> their assembly lines up to at least 3-4 years ago. Not sure of
> the actual status today...
> 
> 

Just got a reply back. That site has 11 VAXELN systems in production.
Don't know if it is still VAX hardware or if they run on emulation...