[Info-vax] Final Orace release on VMS.

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2020-11-14 kl. 19:39, skrev Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
> In article <roosmk$ga0$1 at dont-email.me>,
> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>
> writes:
> 
>> Den 2020-11-14 kl. 12:53, skrev Phillip Helbig (undress to reply):
>>> In article <mn.72e97e4b093ace32.104627 at invalid.skynet.be>, Marc Van Dyck
>>> <marc.gr.vandyck at invalid.skynet.be> writes:
>>>
>>>> If I wanted to run a VMS-based web browser on my desktop, I would just
>>>> run any of the many Xwindows emulation packages available on the market
>>>> (mind you, Excursion still works on Windows 7, I use it) and fire the
>>>> browser from any of my datacenter VMS systems with display on my desk.
>>>
>>> So your desk is not VMS but the browser is running on a VMS server?  If
>>> so, which browser?
>>
>> I think he was just speculating around a hypotetical setup. No one would
>> run the browser on VMS in real life, of course.
> 
> It seems a strange sort of speculation, though, since it is much easier
> to have a graphics monitor directly on VMS than to have a web browser
> running on VMS.

Much easier that to use the broswer already available on your
everyday doesktop system?

> 
>> There are several non-browser tools to automate that, if you need.
>>
>> For tasks like patch download and similar it is much easier to use
>> a browser on a standard desktop environment and then transfer the
>> patch files using any file transfer tool, usually FTP based.
> 
> I don't get it.  My way, it goes directly.  Your way, there is an extra
> step.  How can that be easier?

I prefer to use my everyday desktop for desktop tasks.

> 
>> Read my lips, there will *never* be a "modern" browser running on VMS
>> servers having features up to date with browsers on desktop systems.
> 
> I remember when people said that VMS would never, ever run on x86.  :-)
> 

x86 has absolutelly nothing to do with browsers (or not) on VMS.
That is just a HW platform.