[Info-vax] Rdb/x86

[Kerry Main (C.O.V.)]

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> In article <rpj3lt$1tgq$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> 
> > But what exactly do you want VSI to say?
> >
> > "VSI promise that Rdb will be available on VMS x86-64"
> >
> > then VSI would have a serious problem if Oracle changed their mind and
> > Oracle may get pretty pissed at VSI.
> >
> > "Oracle promise that Rdb will be available on VMS x86-64"
> >
> > Unless Oracle senior management has officially committed then same
> > issues as above.
> >
> > "We hear that some smart guys over at Oracle is working on Rdb
> >   VMS x86-64"
> >
> > And leave it to readers to make their own conclusions.
> >
> > That could easily sound rather un-enthusiastic.
> >
> > "We just has a meeting with Oracle and the future looks bright - see
> > link here ..."
> >
> > Maybe that would work.
> >
> > But finding a message that is both without legal/business risk and
> > enthusiastic is not trivial (unless Oracke has officially announced).
> 
> Right.  My guess is that whatever VSI and/or Oracle do, NEW Rdb customers
> on x86 will be few and far between.  As for old customers, Rdb engineers
> have long stated publicly that if there is VMS on x86 then they will
support
> Rdb on it, so Rdb customers have known that for a long time.
> 

Re: existing Rdb OpenVMS Customers moving to X86-64  ...

Note - Oracle licensing is primarily based on server hardware - not the OS.
Named user is also available.

As a reminder, license costs for Rdb OpenVMS on X86-64 will be 50% of what
they are on Alpha, IA64. 

And then there are the normal discounts applied on top of this.

This is because of the Oracle Processor Core Factor (PCF) .. there is a
weighting factor applied to all Oracle licenses (price x PCF) that is based
on your hardware platform.

For most competitive platforms to Oracle (Alpha, Power. IA64 etc.) the
Factor is 1.0

For X86 platforms, the weighting factor is 0.5.

Reference: (slide 23)
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/corporate/oracle-software-licensing-basic
s.pdf

Hence, since Oracle licensing and support costs is typically in the hundreds
of thousands USD's for many med-large Customers, the hardware platform they
choose is a really big deal. Often dwarfing the costs of the server
hardware.

Imho, the PCF cost savings is one of the major reasons why many Oracle
Customers flipped from Solaris, AIX and HP-UX to Oracle on Linux/X86-64. 

Kerry





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