[Info-vax] Logging systartup_vms.com progress to operator.log VMS 7.3-2

[John Reagan]

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 5:00:31 PM UTC-4, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <rm7m7l$v5c$1... at dont-email.me>, Stephen Hoffman
> <seao... at hoffmanlabs.invalid> writes: 
> 
> > There was a big push for the use of SYSMAN back around V5 IIRC and near 
> > the end of the DEC EMA era, though the enthusiasm for the SYSMAN tool 
> > has waned from there.
> I like SYSMAN, but not in connection with the startup database.
> > SYSMAN had issues around properly sequencing startup dependencies, that 
> > was never resolved, and the integration with the kit installers was 
> > never supported.
> What I really want to know is why there is no rapper called MC Sysman or 
> MC Authorize. :-)

SYSMAN reminds of JOAT.  Lots of useful stuff all under one disjoint/tilted umbrella.

SYSMAN STARTUP was a great concept that fell short of the needs for some of the layered products while being just fine for others.  We got the "see figure one" from VMS engineering saying "SYSMAN STARTUP is great and if you just keep repeating that yourself, you'll eventually believe it".  Feh.  We stood together in solidarity and walked away.