[Info-vax] Logging systartup_vms.com progress to operator.log VMS 7.3-2

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2020-10-15 18:37:47 +0000, Arne Vajhj said:

> If somethings gets uninstalled then it need to be removed from where 
> ever the startup was defined.
> 
> I do not see why removing it from systartup_vms.com should be more 
> difficult than removing it from somewhere else.
> 
> BTW, I would expect it to be removed from startup before being uninstalled.

When managing one or two systems, and with an experienced team familiar 
with these tasks, and with the necessary time available, sure.

And we'll still see testing skipped, errors made, dangling dependencies 
left, and cases where folks didn't unwind required system parameter 
changes. And those parameter settings skew over time.

I know about all of these and other cases, having either made these 
mistakes myself, or having identified and resolved these cases created 
by other system managers or by product-related developers.

I can't count the number of support calls I've fielded from folks that 
thought they could install or uninstall a package, and, well, failed.

Which gets back to better product and better system automation.

Which OpenVMS just isn't good at.

We're discussing this in a thread about debugging startup errors.

Which ~every experienced OpenVMS system manager has stories about.

And which is something that even experienced OpenVMS system managers 
should not need nor have to deal with.



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