[Info-vax] Logging systartup_vms.com progress to operator.log VMS 7.3-2

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Thu Oct 15 21:00:33 EDT 2020


On 10/15/2020 3:47 PM, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2020-10-15 18:37:47 +0000, Arne Vajhj said:
>> If somethings gets uninstalled then it need to be removed from where 
>> ever the startup was defined.
>>
>> I do not see why removing it from systartup_vms.com should be more 
>> difficult than removing it from somewhere else.
>>
>> BTW, I would expect it to be removed from startup before being 
>> uninstalled.
> 
> When managing one or two systems, and with an experienced team familiar 
> with these tasks, and with the necessary time available, sure.
> 
> And we'll still see testing skipped, errors made, dangling dependencies 
> left, and cases where folks didn't unwind required system parameter 
> changes. And those parameter settings skew over time.
> 
> I know about all of these and other cases, having either made these 
> mistakes myself, or having identified and resolved these cases created 
> by other system managers or by product-related developers.
> 
> I can't count the number of support calls I've fielded from folks that 
> thought they could install or uninstall a package, and, well, failed.

I believe that.

But I am pretty confident that removing a line in systartup_vms.com
is not what was causing the problems.

Arne



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