[Info-vax] Any stronger versions of the LMF planned ?, was: Re: LMF Licence Generator Code

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 8/10/2021 7:01 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 10/08/2021 23:55, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 8/10/2021 5:00 PM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2021-08-10 kl. 22:49, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>>>> Has anyone gotten a message from Oracle about how Rdb will
>>>> be licensed on x86-64?
>>>>
>>>> Traditional Oracle licensing would be a list price if 47500 dollars
>>>> per 2 cores of CPU.
>>>>
>>>> And Oracle traditionally count all cores in the physical
>>>> box not VCPU's allocated to VM unless Oracle VM software
>>>> is used.
>>>>
>>>> And with modern 16/24/32 core CPU's then that would
>>>> be "a bit pricey".
>>>
>>> That is the "full system" pricing. You can also ask for a "per user"
>>> quote and compare the outcome. But note that there is a min quote of
>>> 25 "users" per core. And also, Oracle prices are usually highly
>>> negotiable, reductions of up to 50% has been seen.
>>
>> With such prices they can afford some serious discounts.
>>
>> But the question is very relevant.
>>
>> Unless Oracle changes policies then Rdb customers will either
>> need to use Oracle virtualization software or go hunting
>> for super-low-end servers with very few cores.
> 
> Isn't that why many firms move or MySQL, or similar?
> 
> We were an Oracle house, but migrated what we could off it. Sadly we 
> couldn't move two major apps. The Oracle audit was always an issue...

Oracle DB is still selling fine.

But MySQL/MariaDB and PostgreSQL has certainly grown in market share
the last 1-2 decades.

How much is because Oracle price level is too high and how
much is because Oracle price structure is weird and how much
is because everybody dreads Oracle license audits and how
much is due to better support for the open source in some of
all the new stuff being used I don't know.

Arne