[Info-vax] Licenses on VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listing scans

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/10/21 4:52 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 2:44 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 12/10/21 1:36 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2021 1:25 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-10, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Case in point.  We at Consolidated Data insist that all our 
>>>>> customers have
>>>>> support for their commercial use VMS systems.  That is our ethics.  
>>>>> However,
>>>>> should the time come when there is nobody to pay for such support, 
>>>>> and the
>>>>> license terminates, and VMS stops working, then I will bypass the 
>>>>> licensing to
>>>>> keep my customer in business.  That is my ethics.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even ignoring the legal issues with that (and you know my position in
>>>> this general area :-)), do you have the knowledge needed to actually
>>>> do this bypass ?
>>>>
>>>> If you don't, where do you intend on getting this knowledge from ?
>>>
>>> I'll defer answering that question, for now.
>>>
>>> Instead, I'll ask these questions.
>>>
>>> What is the problem, if there is nobody to question such usage?
>>>
>>> What is your opinion of a vendor potentially destroying a customer's 
>>> business?
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like bad planning on the part of the business.  Even the PDP-11
>> didn't just die one day. Same thing with Pr1me.  And I am sure most
>> other companies that have gone the way of the dodo.  If one suspects
>> they are running on a system with such a potential, it is part of
>> their due diligence to look for solutions before the day of disaster.
> 
> So what are you saying?  Everyone using VMS today should start a port 
> and dump VMS?  Be specific.
> 
> 

If they truly think that VMS is going to die, yes.  BUt I don't know
that the threat actually exists.  But If I were running a company
dependent on it I would keep my eye on options.  No cruise ship plans
on sinking but they all care lifeboats.

bill