[Info-vax] Licenses on VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listing scans

[Dave Froble]

On 12/10/2021 6:55 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/10/21 4:52 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 12/10/2021 2:44 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 12/10/21 1:36 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>> On 12/10/2021 1:25 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-10, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Case in point.  We at Consolidated Data insist that all our customers have
>>>>>> support for their commercial use VMS systems.  That is our ethics.  However,
>>>>>> should the time come when there is nobody to pay for such support, and the
>>>>>> license terminates, and VMS stops working, then I will bypass the
>>>>>> licensing to
>>>>>> keep my customer in business.  That is my ethics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even ignoring the legal issues with that (and you know my position in
>>>>> this general area :-)), do you have the knowledge needed to actually
>>>>> do this bypass ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't, where do you intend on getting this knowledge from ?
>>>>
>>>> I'll defer answering that question, for now.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, I'll ask these questions.
>>>>
>>>> What is the problem, if there is nobody to question such usage?
>>>>
>>>> What is your opinion of a vendor potentially destroying a customer's business?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like bad planning on the part of the business.  Even the PDP-11
>>> didn't just die one day. Same thing with Pr1me.  And I am sure most
>>> other companies that have gone the way of the dodo.  If one suspects
>>> they are running on a system with such a potential, it is part of
>>> their due diligence to look for solutions before the day of disaster.
>>
>> So what are you saying?  Everyone using VMS today should start a port and dump
>> VMS?  Be specific.
>>
>>
>
> If they truly think that VMS is going to die, yes.  BUt I don't know
> that the threat actually exists.  But If I were running a company
> dependent on it I would keep my eye on options.  No cruise ship plans
> on sinking but they all care lifeboats.
>
> bill
>

Yep.  Got a plan.  Don't want it to happen, but if VSI should fail, we'd 
continue to use VMS, at least until other options could be explored.  Isn't that 
what the topic is about?  Continuing to run the VMS system already in use?

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