[Info-vax] Licenses on VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listing scans

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 12/14/21 12:05 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> I was staying out of this nonsense, since I've long ago determined that 
> no one will convince Arne of something he doesn't want to acknowledge.  
> But this gem ..
> 
> On 12/14/2021 10:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> 
>> Sadly, most students never learn to think for themselves and when
>> it is drilled into them repeatedly not to do someting even if the
>> reasons given ar invalid they tend to follow like the lemmings
>> college is preparing them to be.
> 
> When my son was ready to go to college, he asked me, what job(s) should 
> I learn?  I told him he was not going to college to learn a job.  That 
> he was going to college to expand his horizons, to learn to think, and 
> to question.  

Wow, an argument that was quite popular in the 1800's.  :-)

>              That is the true job of higher education, to teach young 
> people that the world is a bit wider than what they knew growing up.  To 
> be able to think for themselves.  As an example, he came home one day 
> and declared "the only difference between Christianity and today's cults 
> is that Christianity is 2000 years old."  Now I'm sure that came from 
> some know-it-all professor, but, the key was that my son was exposed to 
> a new concept, and then had to think about it.

Much more likely he was told it as dogma and accepted it from the
professor without question.  Did he go to a Jesuit School?  :-)

> 
> Higher education is only as good as those at the point of contact, the 
> professors, and they are only human, with their egos, their concepts, 
> and the self assurance that they are the pinnacle of human evolution.  
> All too often their students accept that concept.

I remember well the year we had the evaluation by Jesuits from
one of the more prestigious Jesuit Universities.  He berated us
for even having a CS Department.  That was a trade and that was
not what University was for.  This from a Professor who taught
at Georgetown.  A school that produce piles of lawyers every
year.  Like that's not a trade.  :-)

Of course, please remember my earlier comment that CIS should
be taught in trade school.  Should make the liberal art snobs
happy, save the students a fortune in student loans and meet
the needs of the industry. Everybody wins.

bill