[Info-vax] Licenses on VAX/VMS 4.0/4.1 source code listing scans

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 12/14/2021 9:02 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/13/21 9:34 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 12/13/2021 3:44 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 12/13/21 1:26 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> And it has thrived because of the value it provides - not because
>>>> universities pushed it. The last 10-20 years Computer Science
>>>> has pushed FP not OOP. But true FP has never really caught on
>>>> in the industry. Most OOP languages got a few FP features and
>>>> they are used for convenience, but not enough to be true FP.
>>>
>>> Sadly, I think OOP is going to be here a long time.  I am just
>>> glad the people working where it is not a good fit have resisted
>>> it.  I still do COBOL.  Mostly just for fun, but it is still
>>> interesting.  You should go over to Rosetta Code and see all the
>>> things COBOL does that aren't even in its wheelhouse.
>>
>> Cobol was intended as a business application language but it is
>> enough general purpose to that almost everything can be done
>> in it.
> 
> Exactly.  I  have done some COBOL stuff for Rosetta Code and
> it's really fun.  May do another one today.  Of course, I also
> do DIBOL-11, MACRO-11, Ratfor and Basic09.  And, I am thinking
> of doing some Logo (I have gotten back into Logo because my 8
> year old grandson wants to learn "coding" and Logo is an ideal
> language for teaching the basics to someone his age).  If there
> was an available PL/I compiler I would probably do a bunch in
> that, too.  The fun of being a dinosaur.

Kednos had PL/I for VAX and Alpha and a hobbyist program.

Maybe you can get a kit and a license - I think it was said
that even though the business is closed then a hobbyist
license could still be issued.

Or you could give http://www.iron-spring.com/ a try on
Linux.

Arne